Prime Frazier v Marciano's Challengers?

Frazier would clean the house faster and better than rocky

 

Yes you right, he did not have the power of rocky, because he had more, being naturally 20 pounds bigger

 

Frazier at his best was an incredible fighter. Truly difficult to beat. At his best when he lost a round the other man was worse off for winning it. He exhausted his opponents taking away the room they needed to put enough leverage into a punch. Forcing them to constantly reset, adjust and fight like mad just to keep Joe off of them. He was able to unload his best punch as frequently and accurately as most fighters use a jab. Incredible.

I think over the same time span Joe could absolutely replicate Rocky with fairly equal wins. If he starts with the Mathis win by the time he gets to the Ali win it would cover the reign of Marciano. It's enough consistency to do it.

It's only because Joe fought beyond the point that Rocky retired that he is not better thought of. Ellis, Quarry, chuvalo, Bonnavena, Ali. ..that's plenty good enough.

 

Frazier easily.

 

You only need to create a ten second concussion to record a knockout. If a fighter can record 3 minute comas over world class fighters (Walcott was out that long) do you seriously think carrying a bit more weight needs to (or could) improve that ability?

Nobody needs to punch any harder than having Functional knockout power.

Frazier and Rocky both had it.

Rocky had Two handed power though.

 

Uh yes, i forgot the legendary chin of walcott.. Having drunk and knocked down a 70s ali (iron chin) is much more impresive to me
A bit more weight? Lol he was around 20 pounds heavier. If you think that it is "a bit" more ok...

 

That must be why Primo Carnera was the best puncher of all time.:think:

 

No.. You can be big and not a puncher. But if you got 2 punchers.. The natural bigger man hits harder. I guarantee you that ali did hit harder than bob foster

 

The only thing that you cant compare
Is the bunch of garbage that rocky fought with the oposition of frazier. Archie moore, walcott, old Luis and the bunch of cans that rocky sttoped had iron chins sure haha

 

The argument " he hits harder because he stopped more ranked fighter" is pure nonsense. Ali stopped more ranked contenders than lyle or even shavers.holyfield stopped more ranked contenders than them.but who hits harder? There are tons of factors..
In this case my point is that frazier faced much more durable fighters than marciano did. Archie moore was an ancient
Lhw when he faced rock with ****py chin.and how many rounds lasted with rocky? Bob foster was younger than moore and his chin was not worse if anything better than moore's.how many rounds lasted foster with frazier? Uh?
I dont care if moore was ranked at hw blablabla it is irrelevant because probably foster would have been ranked too at hw in the era of moore