Prime George Foreman v.s. Prime Lennox Lewis

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  1. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

    so people know **** all :lol:
     
  2. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Lewis wins 7 out of 10 times....I think. Georges power was an outstanding neutralizer.
     
  3. carras

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  4. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    I'd pick Lewis. His jab and combination punching would allow him to handle Foreman from long-range (like Lyle/Young). He'd be able to get inside George's looping shots and take advantage of his limited head-movement and weak guard. Lewis was a good infighter aswell and would be able to out-fight Foreman up close when neccesary. A young Foreman didn't set up his work enough with his jab, which would allow Lewis to avoid most of his wild shots.

    I doubt Lennox would get KTFO if he turns up prepared, which he would. Lennox Lewis wins by UD.:good
     
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  5. papke26

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    A prime foreman would of had a distinct advantage against lewis in the fact that you had to possess a beard made from the hardest of granite to even have a chance against foremans early atacks. The lickley hood of lewis avading the early onslaught would be minute when you consider the super fast ali couldnt even do it. Lewis was a great fighter but his advantages against the average fighter in the light of his herclian dimensions and strength wouldnt matter aganist foreman who was also massive. People tend to forget that when foreman lost to jimmy young he was still damaged from his loss to the lousivile lip. ko BY THE THIRD ROUND
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    What makes you say that? Lewis has more one-punch KO's than Foreman and fought more durable fighters in general. But ok, let's say both hit ****ing hard.

    I don't think it's clear at all that a prime Foreman has a better chin.

    Basically, Foreman barely faced any punchers, hence he wasn't really exposed to big gunfire as Lewis frequently was.

    Let's face it. Frazier was not a big one-punch guy, but instead relied on wearing his opponents down and started very slow. He barely landed a significant punch. Norton, too, was more of an accumulative puncher. And yes, he broke Ali's jaw, but luck factors in there as well. A 180lbs Marty Marshall broke Liston's jaw as well.

    Then only puncher a prime Foreman faced was Ron Lyle, who went the distance with just about any ranked opponent outside of glass chinned Shavers. Still, he managed to floor Foreman twice and nearly had him out in a wild fight.

    Add to that that Ali, not a big hitter, stunned him often and feather fisted Jimmy Young knocked him down.

    Lewis on the other hand, faced huge hitters like Briggs, Ruddock, Bruno, Morrison, Tua, Klitschko, Tyson (still dangerous early), Mercer, Mason, Tucker McCall 2x, Rahman 2x and others. He only suffered two knockdowns against all of those, once he was out (and 35 years old) and against McCall he was up but the fight was stopped (with King having bet big sums on his fighter McCall, surprise surprise). Both of these were avenged by fanastic performances, whereas Foreman never once avenged a loss or even beat a skillful boxer with a good chin. To be fair though, Ali avoided a rematch.


    Hell, even Evander Holyfield, despite not having the reputation, has more puncher's credentials than Lyle. He knocked the ultra-durable Mercer down, knocked Bowe down, stopped the very durable Tyson, Dokes, Thomas (ok, no knockdowns) and a fat Douglas. By contrast, Lyle went the full distance with 195lbs Quarry, Stallings, Bonavena, Ellis, Young, Peralta, Bugner.... basically everyone except for Shavers, who as said, had a glass jaw.


    It's easy to go by what you see on first sight, but what you won't see is the gigantic difference in both the quality and quantity of punchers that Lewis and a prime Foreman faced.


    Ali couldn't miss Foreman with straight right hands; he was also basically the first fighter with a good chin and boxing fundamentals that Foreman faced, with Young. Both beat him. Foreman can definitely knock out Lewis, but i think the chance that Lewis outboxes him and/or stops him is bigger.
     
  7. RUSKULL

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    Lewis. Even the comebacking George Forman said he wanted no part of Lennox Lewis.
     
  8. RUSKULL

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    George said it on many occasions.
     
  9. papke26

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    Foreman did face punchers in his carrar in a time when the level was in the top division far higher joe frazier was a puncher if you dont think he was how could he of knocked down ali stoped jerry quarry and destroyed so many fighters. Ken nortan was a huge puncher and big and strong and still possessed his phscical powers when he fought foreman and he didnt fare well. People seem to think that because of alis tactical genius and mutant abilty to resist savagry in the squared cicle that all lewis would have to do is jab a bit wear him out then knock him out like the self described greatest did in zaira. That wouldnt be the case foreman didnt have a randell tex cobb like chin but he would of been aware enougth to evade lewis blows and just repeatdly charge in. Lewis liked to box from the outside he never meet a fighter that had the level of intensity as foreman tyson was near shot tua was slow tommy morrison had no chin and aids and holyfield was to busy having his 50th child for god than to beat a idolater like lennox lewis
     
  10. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Lewis TKO5
     
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  11. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Well don't count George out in the jab department so easily. He's always had a very effective jab himself, and Lewis may have an educated jab of his own, but he seems to have problems defending against it as he's been outjabbed in fights before in the past. So I'm not sure I see any clear leader here if the fight were to turn into a jabbing contest.
     
  12. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    By the way, I see this fight looking a bit sloppy a lot like Lewis against Vitali... and in a fight like that where both are going to be exchanging big bombs throughout, I choose Foreman's better chin to outlast Lewis's weaker one.

    Foreman by 8th round KO.
     
  13. Ikketurner

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    Foreman would win... I don't think Lennox has the "heart" to get with Foreman. Lennox fought one dude that was bigger than him and retired afte the fight. Lennox beat up on smaller heavyweights. Big George probably would have knocked him smooth out.
     
  14. Ikketurner

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    Actually he beat Holyfield once. Holyfield won the first one, Ruiz the second one and the third one was a draw.
     
  15. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    (1) Foreman was smaller than Lewis.

    (2) Lewis fought lots of boxers who were taller than him. Tony Tucker, Michael Grant and Vitali Klitschko were all considerably taller; Shannon Briggs, Tyrell Biggs, Derek Williams and Andrew Golota were all about Lewis's height. You are wrong.

    Compare that to Foreman, who in his first career never beat a taller boxer. If anyone beat up on smaller boxers, it was Foreman; Lewis cannot be accused of this by any well-informed fan, which you clearly aren't.