Prime George Foreman vs. Prime Joe Louis.

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm confused by people's logic, when Foreman is facing a smaller opponent his size and strength is an advantage but when facing a bigger stronger man like Joshua or Klitschko it doesn't matter anymore? Which is it?
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The problem is that the part "stronger" is invented by you, and foreman is bigger and stronger than louis but also is all time great, joshua is an all time nobody
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he said the same thing about Frazier, that he was shaking in fear

    yet if you look at the stare down, George doesnt appear to fear Joe

    and he sure didnt fight him scared
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    :lol:

    In other breaking news the sun is hot and water wet.
     
  5. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    Max Baer backed him up quite easily, until he stopped his assault as he always did and got hit himself.
     
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  6. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    If you see Louis surviving on the backfoot for 6 rounds, he has a chance. I don´t see him making it, having more chance brawling it out with Foreman, which ends in favour of the more powerful, heavier and better chinned fighter of course.
     
  7. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    What the **** are you talking about?
    A Foreman - Joshua and Klitschko bout is extremeley close, as is their difference in size and power.

    Which is exactly not the case for Foreman - Louis!
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Louis decimated Baer. I reckon you got him mixed up with his brother.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Louis wouldn't spend 6 rounds on the back foot. He was an extremely talented and economical boxer whose counters were like lightning. Lets not forget Louis' own blistering power either.

    George is a wide swinger and infinitely less sharp than Louis who punches in absolutely textbook fashion.

    I would agree that this bout would be a short one, absolutely. Foreman is aggressive and Joe is a come forward boxer/stalker. If both are somehow standing after 6 rounds however i would still disagree Joe would be at a disadvantage. It's not him known for gassing or tiring.

    Super match. Joe is one of not many guys i'd give a decent chance to beat peak Foreman.
     
  10. BCS8

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    I'd have to favour Foreman, All the physical attributes are on his side. Louis liked to light guys up, and Foreman would be all to happy to oblige him. I'm not saying Louis couldn't win, because a savage combination puncher like him is always in a fight, but if you put a gun to my head and told me to bet on a winner, it would be Foreman.
     
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  11. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Louis was incredibly economical and accurate with stamina. A huge advantage for him with this fight continuing. If Foreman doesn't KO him, he wins this... A great fight whoever your guy is .. 60/40 Louis for me
     
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  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    But the thing is that foreman would ko him
     
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  13. surfinghb

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    definitely a strong arguement for that
     
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  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The size difference between Foreman and Wladimir Klitschko/Anthony Joshua is as great as the size difference between Foreman and Louis. Foreman has roughly 20 pounds on Louis and is giving away 20 pounds to Wladimir and roughly 22 pounds to Joshua. So no, they are not close in size and Foreman is giving away more height (3 inches) than Louis is (1 1/4 inches).
    the tale of the tape is as follows
    Joe Louis George Foreman Wladimir Klitschko
    ht 6'1 3/4 ht 6'3 ht 6'6
    neck 16 1/2 neck 17 1/2 neck 18
    reach 76 reach 78 1/2 reach 81
    chest/norm 41 chest/norm 43 chest/norm 47
    chest/exp 44 chest/exp 45 1/2 chest/exp 48
    biceps 14 biceps 15 1/2 biceps 18
    forearm 12 1/2 forearm 14 forearm 17 1/4
    waist 34 waist 34 waist 34
    thigh 21 thigh 25 thigh 22
    calf 16 calf 17 calf 17
     
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  15. janitor

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    I cannot congratulate you on your analysis.

    Baer did not back Louis up.

    Louis chose to back up, so that Baer would have to walk onto his punches.

    That is why things didn't pan out particularly well for Baer!