Prime George Foreman vs. Prime Joe Louis.

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Louis takes it, late decision after a terrible storm early on.

    not withstanding a brutal KO midround by george.

    When its two guys of this calibre you cannot call it all one way.
     
  2. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From 1975 to 1978 Ali was clearly well past hia prime and I would say he was shot from 1976 to 1978 yet he still was able to beat a guy who beat prime Foreman. As far as agendas you are comparing a guy with 25 title defenses who dominated the division for 11 years with a guy who only managed 2 title defenses and was never the best heavyweight in the world. You dont see how people could find the comparison offensive?
     
  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    how many rivals of louis would have a chance against foreman?
    How many times did joshua defend his title and against who? And still he is not "the champion" because the wbc is the only real belt. Your argument for joshua beating foreman is the weight, with louis is the number of defences.You are not only a laughable biased clown but a legendary foreman hater
     
  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joshua has been generally considered the best heavyweight in thw world since 2016. If we start with hia first fight that would give him 5 title defenses
     
  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Your "generally" means nothing, no basis to support it.... He is not the wbc champ and only did beat pure garbage and a shot wladimir
     
  6. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't care about the WBC, in an era of fragmented titles the guy generally regarded as the best is the champ thus Joshua is champ until someone beats him. Unifying titles is impossible due to the super and regular champions policy. We may never see someone collect all the belts again thats just how it is today.
     
  7. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The guys Foreman fought in the 70s would probably be easily beaten by even the Wladimir that Joshua beat. In fact they would probably be fighting at cruiserweight today.
     
  8. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Tell me how guys that weighed well over 200 pounds the day of the weighing when they fought foreman would be cruiserweights today or in any time uh soberane idiot?
    and also.. the oposition of joe louis was overall smaller than foreman's so tell me exactly why do you use this argument selectively based on your convenience ?
    You are a foreman hater, basically a troll end of history
     
  9. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighters dry out before fights and then put on weight following weigh ins. Cruiserweights today are entering the ring at 220 pounds fight night.

    Buddy Baer and Primo Carnera were both ranked in the top 10 and are bigger than any world class heavyweight Foreman beat so Foreman might have an edge in average size but his biggest opponents at that level are smaller than Louis's.
     
  10. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman has 2 title defenses, Louis has 25. You can't see why someone would find the comparison offensive? If Foreman wanted to rank alongside guys like Louis he should have won in Zaire. But he didn't, that's not being a hater its just facts.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As far as which of Louis's rivals beat Foreman I don't know how many would beat him but given he lost to Young and barely beat Lyle I suspect there are a number with a good shot, they need to just survive the early rounds.
     
  12. janitor

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    Thank you, I have studies the fight many times.

    Maybe you should learn the most basic principles of boxing.

    Just because fighter A is backing up fighter B, does not mean that fighter A is accomplishing something.

    A smart fighter will often force their opponent to work on the front foot, in order to make them walk into fire.

    Another example of a fighter employing this tactic to devastating effect, is Sonny Liston against Floyd Patterson.

    This is very basic stuff!
     
  13. GOAT Primo Carnera

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    So you agreeing with me?
    He was overpowering Louis easily until he got tagged, stopping his assault. Its on tape. Louis did not "let Baer walk into any fire", he was lucky not to get hurt here getting bashed into the corner, showing no defense. He used what he always used as defense: His offense. It worked this time, but Baer certainly had some crude power, no good idea if you ask me.

    You are telling me Louis is "letting Foreman walk into fire" blocking punches with his face? Good plan?

    By the way: Foreman ran through Nortons punches like they were nothing.
     
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  14. Cojimar 1946

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    Louis's defense may be better than your giving him credit for he shows head movement and ducking under punches and can fight backing up. I would be really keen to see someone elaborate on these defensive shortcomings.
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Either way, this is one fight where the judges can take the night off and just enjoy the festivities. As they won't be needed. Regardless of who you pick to win, one man would be walking to his doom on the way to the ring