Prime George Foreman vs. Prime Joe Louis.

Baer broke his hand I believe right at the end of round 2. He backed Louis into the corner and opened up a excellent combo. Had he not broke his hand at that point the fight would have gone differently for sure. Louis just had target practice after that point. Foreman would have destroyed Louis in two to three rounds.

 

Yeah and Louis made him quiet after a few seconds with murderous counters...

 

wrong louis would lose to slow on feet

 

Could happen. He could also slip through foreman’s porous defense and land a 6-8 punch combo before Foreman even knew what hit him

 

anything could happen when the fighter in said era was comparable

louis never fought anybody with the cut off skill of George or the ability to punch while keeping distance smoothly

or anybody who moved good Louis never fought anybody like this George had that so even though louis had great timing and counter skill it was effective for people who fought at his foot movement level
anybody can look great doing that

put those same dudes back then with any 70s who moved good on feet and ability to fight like how I said George did

like Frazier who moved better then George and those dudes would be destroyed they would be made to look like rookies who never fought

George never had trouble with a person who had bad defense or who wasnt good on his feet

Louis could not trade with George and could not get away he would be out and fast

most know I never been a fan of George style he was sloopy
wasted punches
easy to hit no real defense
but he would be way to much for those in louis era
max is no compare I really dont get why people compare him he was nothing compared to George a joke really

 

I don't think Foreman would really need to do much ring cutting since Louis mostly used his feet in a slow (but methodical) pace. Shuffling and stalking economically and purposefully.

I think Louis loses the first fight, but wins a rematch or a best of 3 due to his ability to adapt. He's one of the very, very few men who can actually get in the eyes of the storm and beat Foreman up close with his sizzling hand speed and combinations. The question would be if he can land more than Foreman and wear him down before getting clipped by something heavy. It really bugs me how much Louis got dropped by seemingly innocuous shots, but he would always spring right back up. In other words, shaky chin but good recovery.

Foreman was a superb finisher and even if Louis only suffered a "flash" knockdown, he might pounce on Louis immediately and we could see fireworks with both men letting their hands go at a blistering pace. In such a situation, a decision would be impossible. Either Foreman gasses trying too hard to get Louis out of there and gets himself stopped in the process, or Louis crumbles under the pressure. Either way, one hell of a fight the moment either guy lands something big.

 

I get what you’re saying. Anyone who stood in front of George was basically dead. That’s true. Problem is, the same thing happened to anyone who stood in front of Louis and that included some pretty damn big and strong men who could hit.

 

but as I explained those dudes louis fought had bad movement why did you skip over me saying that

it doesn't matter how hard they hit when they just stood there used no real movement

so no Louis couldnt do that in 70s he couldnt just have people come to him and he drops them he would have to add movement to be able to land shots I said this already why do I have to keep explaining this do people here really not watch matches and just think I'm making this stuff up

cause that what it seems like the same quotes keep being repeated

oh Louis fought big men
he dropped big men

he never fought any big man who moved good or who knew how to use there size while having good movement

which makes all the dudes who he beat not impressive

 

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posting this here so people can really pick out parts to watch and then debate here with some real sense

cause this shows the difference with max who is compared to George for some odd reason for years is no compare to George

max hit hard but look at his movement people

look at every detail on how he punches and moving

and look at George movements while punching and every other detail that George has over him do you people really see still George losing to louis who tiptoed who would be bullied and thrown off by it cause he wasnt used to it

if anybody does it's a problem there with vision or just lying cause their a fan of Louis and being blinded by it and not using any real sense

max was one of the top guys back then he never would be in 70s think about that

when we even look at Ken he has way better movement then max which ken would destroy max fast

 

Come on man....Your talking about technique, Foreman moved cut the ring well for his size. The elephant in the room is Foreman's big ole head straight up in the air, carrying hands low. Kenny Norton was intimidated by George Foreman. He could have teed off. Joe Louis wouldn't have that problem.
Foreman is gonna have trouble bullying Louis because George would have been eating clean, combinations, 2s and 3s. Foreman might take some punishment but eventually he's gonna get pummeled into submission.
Your entitled to your opinion about Louis era, condemn it but It doesn't change the fight because Joe Louis is the more skilled, well rounded, better defensive fighter between those 2. In a battle of elite punchers like this the better, quicker defensive fighter is gonna come out ahead. Who is landing square? Clean shots in combination? He even had better, stamina than Foreman.
Louis is the more advanced of the two. Foreman had some skills too, on the crude side. George Foreman was devastating especially when an opponent crouched, bent into his wheelhouse. Down low those uppercuts, he could get his hands on a guy. Norton and Frazier both fit that bill.
Louis would give Foreman the impression he's just gonna go toe to toe. Foreman loads up, Louis half step back counters.

 

so you cant see louis having trouble with George even though max moved way worst then George as shown in the vid I shown

George even moved better then Louis can you not see that ether and your still saying Louis could win you must see his movement better then ken then

cause if Louis movement is not better then ken well we have a problem with the matchup going the way you said which is pretend

the way I see the match is not opinion its fact louis would lose with his outdated footwork you cant change these videos showing how outdated it is

along with him missing the upper body movement that George and ken showed to avoid and punch circling the ring while punching which they didnt do in louis era

unless you can prove by vid like me that louis showed he could move like George or ken kr anybody else in 70s your pick is wrong its pretend

mine is fact from video I gave George nothing he didnt show on video on advances in movement over the whole Louis era

nobody will show me the same for Louis cause it didnt exist

its not really a debate for me cause I know im right my thing is you people pretending to be blind to Louis like he moved like that era which he did not

I like Louis he had great timing
great counters
the ability which was super rare when he had a person hurt they stayed that way until they fell

but I wont pretend to be blind like you people and act like he had the mutiple advances in upper body movement like 70s-90s which became even more advanced

then add the advanced footwork in 70s-90s which he was missing to without both of these he couldnt beat any mid or big name hw of said eras its not opinion its fact he would need to advance

everything I said is right your just disagreeing cause I find flaws in the era Louis was in which he was in at the right time

put a pro nba player in with rookies he looks like a legend not hard to do its not impressive

none of the names he fought was impressive at all not compared to 70s-90s

I never brought up ken not able to handle George I said ken movement was better then people in louis era so it doesn't matter if he was scared of George my subject is mostly movement only nothing to do with who was intimidated or not or who won or didnt

it's on the advances in movement which would be the biggest thing that matters in George vs Louis

 

I didn’t just skip over it. Did George foreman have great movement ? Would you described his defense as being stellar ? How about his stamina ? It’s fine to favor foreman but to think that the greatest combination puncher of all time wouldn’t stand a chance Is a stretch.

 

i think you must not seen my post legend magoo I have always said George defense was bad and he was sloopy I have said mutiple times George when young is not impressive to me cause of his flaws

but I have always respected his great cut off skills and how strong he was

it's not me picking George cause I like his style I dont it's me seeing his advances in movement which louis never fought

it makes no sense to pick Louis who would be not only be bullied like he never have before but his toughness was bad and he just was to outdated as far as movement is concerned I even posted the vids showing this and George movement

now if louis had better footwork
and the upper body advances in movement yea I pick him all the way cause I like his great timing and counter ability

like I said before it was never anybody George fought who had bad defense and footwork who he didnt destroy Louis had that problem

 

Don't waste your time, he believes that Foreman had better footwork than Walcott or Charles...

 

Guess we’ll never know