prime george foreman vs prime mike tyson

Foreman Hook you are the worst ****ing poster ive ever seen here, a george-foreman, cum-guzzling ****ing idiot..... :good


Tyson Vs Foreman would be a great fight, & whoever wanted the victory more would come out on top, but please, stop putting up pictures of 2002 Tyson, stop saying Tyson ducked foreman in 95, & saying prime Tyson had no power, defence & no backfoot-fighting...You know Foreman had plenty ****-poor performances in his career as well dont forget Foreman got the **** slapped out of his face by Axel Schultz in 96, :good


And Stop saying TEH......Its THE :good backwards mamas-boy with Down-Syndrome :hi:

 

But could a 21 year old Tyson hold his nerve like a 32 year old Ali did ? This is n't a putdown of Tyson,but there's not many fighters that could have beaten a prime George Foreman the way Muhammad did.

 

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Foreman's uppercut would definitely be one of the deciding factors here.

 

Xpert Xamples. :thumbsup They all scared, feather-fisted or bums - BUT they landed a ****-load of uppercuts on him. Esp "Fighting Cowgirl" Tilly, who uppercutted teh **** outta Tyson for 10 Roundz,, but was a feather-fisted Grade D Ali-Clone. [IMO Tilly won on my scorecard,, 5-4-1]

Xpert fact. :thumbsup

Tysons' crounching, chin-forward, bobing And weaving style make him kinda hard to hit by Most punches - BUT it make him v.vunerable/easy-target for uppercuts, cos teh bobbing And weaving make him go DIRECTLY INTO them, just like Frazier did And Frazier had better, Faster, harder-to-hit, head-movement. And no mother****er can take many haymaker-Uppercuts from my boy Big GF, he teh most Powerful, most strong man OAT.

 

Yes McGrain, again sir, but sometimes I never get tired.

Let's use the 1987/1988 Tyson because these were arguably some of his best years. This version of Mike was the baddest man on the planet that could really take a punch. A lot of posters here seem to brush off the shots that he took from Tubbs, Tucker, Bruno and Mitch Green in his first reign. These guys didn't have the power of Foreman or Shavers, but they could certainly punch. Razor Ruddock aside from Lewis I would say has the most power of any Tyson opponent and Mike ate some of his best shots and fired back in return. I don't agree with the first stoppage against Ruddock, but that's another thread that's proabably been done too.

Prime George Foreman of 1973 was a monster of a champion, arguably the hardest punching heavyweight, both hands, pound for pound of all time. Lyle hit really hard in both hands but not as hard as George. Liston was more accurate with his jab and his right hand can definitely compare with George but still he's not quite as heavy handed. You could say Shavers' right hand was slightly harder and more devasting than George's according to Lyle and Ali but Shavers' hook and jab can't compare to George's.

Hard to say what happens in this fight, but I do know that there's still a tendency to base the outcome by virtue of how George handled Frazier which is wrong. Tyson is a different fighter with different rhythm and different head movement. I believe Frazier was slightly more predictable than Tyson but moved his head and shoulders, bobbing and weaving faster which made him very hard to hit when warmed up. You knew Frazier's head wasn't going to be in the same place all the time and he could be hit. Trouble is hitting prime Frazier cleanly and consistently wasn't always an easy task. Humble George will tell you that he was lucky to fight the version of Frazier that he did. He doesn't believe he would have beat the same fighter from FOTC and any boxing fan who watched Frazier before FOTC and saw his title defenses against Daniels and Stander should understand this. Futch was very worried of Frazier's constant partying in Jamaica and not being at his best to defend the title only to see what happened.

As for the fight, I'd say prime Foreman stops prime Tyson around 7 or 8 but not before tasting the canvas himself. Tyson has the power to put George on the mat but I don't think he would finish George. Frazier had good power in his left hook and a decent right hand that little give him credit for except Ali, Lyle, Norton Chuvalo and Quarry in subsequent interviews. Frazier wasn't going to put George on the canvas early in the fight. Prime Frazier would have likely been a lot harder for George to hit and could have found his way inside to work the body consistently. Tyson would likely stand and trade with George and get knocked out in the process.

 

Good post :good

 

Stevie m8, what you think of my posts in here???
I un-biased And a Xpert on Foreman And Tyson.

 

i had that Lennox quote in my mind about what he said to Tua

"Youll need more than a haircut and a left hook to beat Lennox lewis"

Some points i wanted to raise

How hard does Foreman punch comapred to Ruddock and
how hard does Tyson punch compared to Lyle?

Im still picking Tyson.

Tyson vs Foreman is like a Sniper Rifle Vs an RPG

 

Unbiased? :rofl

 

Tyson got hit by Bruno with a big punch and that was first fight Tyson looked vunerable because of his lack of head movement and other skills that made him great, it was also the first fight without Kevin Rooney. Tyson in his prime had a good jab, he threw combinations, went to the body more and he got down more in a crutch, he stopped doing that when he left rooney. You fight the way you train, it's called muscle memory, and if your not training a certain way, you'll lose it, like anything. It's the same with intelligence, if you stop touching up on things, you might retain some of the information but your not not gonna retain all of it.

Watch his fights from mitch green all the way to Spinks, and than watch the 1st Bruno fight all the way to the second rudduck fight, you'll notice a big difference and if you don't notice it, than something is wrong you.


As for The Tubbs, Tucker, and Green fights, all 3 guys were talented boxers and had very fast hands, and they could barely even hit Tyson, that's a great testament to Mike defence WHEN HE WORKED ON IT DILENTLY. Of course they were gonna land something, but they couldn't land consistently enough because of Tyson's head movement and foot speed, and that's why he could get in on them the way he did. Tucker hit Mike with an uppercut backing up and timed him perfectly by boxing him. Foreman, DOES NOT POSSES HAND SPEED OR FOOT SPEED LIKE THAT. No way is he hitting Tyson with a loooping Uppercut, it's the reason Why Bonecrusher couldn't hit Tyson with any of his, because of that reason, I don't care what anybody say's.(bonecrusher even admitted Tyson was very fast) He loops his punches too much to hit mike and the amount countering(which he doesn't get enough credit for being a good counter puncher) and combinations he would be landing to foremans body and head as he's shown in his fights would be happening frequently. He is not gonna push Tyson around like Frazier, Tyson is physically stronger than Frazier and has more boxings skills. And Foreman ain't gonna be taking Tyson punches for 12 rounds, that ain't happening, Mike's one of the hardest hitters in history. Foreman was a great puncher, and durable but don't make him more than what he is.

 

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most of you are just too biased ... both ways. Tyson had the chin, the early tyson had the heart and stamina to battle it out for 12 rounds. I pick prime Tyson to beat ANY heavyweight ever. any... except for GEORGE FOREMAN.
(prime holmes and ali might do it aswell, but i'm not sure). But George is all wrong for Mike.