Prime George Foreman vs Prime Trevor Berbick

Nice post.... I just think folks go a bit weak at the knees over BGF without checking what really happened.
Nice one.

 

Foreman would wreck him.

 

Foreman within three. A massacre.

 

BRUTAL KO for Big George....he walks thru Berbick....

 

I wonder...if Berbick got to Foreman the way he did Larry (psychologically) if the fight might have gone on longer. I mean, he did take Holmes the distance when LH was still in his prime.

That said, Big George hit a LOT harder than Larry, and Berbick got hit a lot.

 

IT's a matter of how Berbick fights .. if he tries to outmuscle Foreman like he tried to w Holmes and Page he'd likely get hurt as George was even stronger and a much harder puncher. However if Trevor fought a more controlled fight he might give George a much bigger challenge. Trevor was himself big and strong and durable and George was not Mike when it came to hand speed .. If Foreman himself did not then fight a controlled fight I can see it as very interesting .. Sometimes in fights like these one fighter surprises with diversity in his game like when Bonavena decided to outgame Chuvalo opposed to outmuscle him ..

 

See Tyson/Berbick. Berbick was easy to hit no matter how he fought and young George has the power to seriously hurt him.

 

Completely different fighters. George pulverized the best version of Norton in 2 rounds where as an aging but still very good version went tooth and nail with Larry over 15 rounds.

Berbick is made for Foreman. If Berbick tries to be canny we all know what Foreman was like cutting off the ring. Berbick was quite durable but Renaldo Snipes of all people dropped him in the opening round of their match but was too sloppy to finish him. He also had him reeling a couple of rounds later. It's an early night for George.

 

If BGF was such a murderous puncher than why did those he knocked down keep getting back up ?
Frazier countless times, Norton, Lyle, Young etc ? And he couldnt knock Ali down , who had been decked by small guys Frazier and Cooper .
Just a thought.

 

Ali didnt get dropped by shavers or liston either. Guess they were featherfisted.

In case you didnt notice, all the guys who dropped ali did so with a left hook from a crouch, guys who swarm, which were all big stylistic weaknesses of Ali. Against George, Ali laid on the ropes and rolled with a lot of punches/countered/etc.

George is in the record books for early knockouts. The whole reason he had so much trouble against Ali and Young in the first place is because he never had to go into the later rounds because he pulverized everyone early.

Lyle and ledoux were counted out and they were both tough game fighters. George broke you down with brutal clubbing shots, he didnt usually get clean 1 punch kos because he lacked speed and snap. Cooney and Moore were both very brutal sudden kos and neither man got up from the shot.

 

True ten count kos are rare.

Foreman hit scary hard. Only hwt I’ve ever seen train whose power frightened me. I’ve watched Frazier, Ali, Shavers and Foreman. Only George stands out in terms of the power he displayed. I’ve mentioned this numerous times but he manhandled a 300 pound heavy bag like it was nothing with punches you could hear all over the gym. Thunderous. He wore what looked like sparring gloves as bag gloves...large 12 oz sparring gloves in appearance and still his power looked and sounded off the charts. You had to see it to believe it.

 

George was such a different fighter in that his punches were far more thudding than snapping. So, even if you got caught adumbratively by one of his loaded-up shots you were damaged, but in a different way from a glancing whip-like shot.

I think George, like Riddick Bowe later, knocked people down as much with his overbearing size than with sheer power alone. Both certainly used pushes to help the opponent kiss canvas. With someone like Tyson, the punches were faster if significantly less powerful. Kind of like the difference between getting cracked by a bullwhip and crushed by a huge, falling refrigerator.

Also, George's shots were often telegraphed, so the opponent most often knew something was going to happen. Where, more than a few of Mike's knockouts were via shots that came out of nowhere.

An exception is the shot George took Moorer out, and notice how he not only didn't see it coming but went out for the count. And Michael had taken some big shots earlier and kept coming.

 

I'm seeing people talk about Trevs chin but Chuvalo was clearly as durable as an anvil and was TKO'd in the third?

I don't remember the round but the man was clearly cowering! Contrary to what George Chuvalo says Foreman wasn't tiring and Chuvalo was going to be knocked put sooner or later...

So despite Chuvalos toughness he was stopped do you truthfully believe Trev could take what the Canadian Croat could?

Trev has no valuable advantages this shouldn't be a question no disrespect to Berbick but George is on another level.

Trevor vs Michael Moore is a fun one no?

 

All of your points are true enough!
but that life and death was against a prime murderous puncher whilst George was at his worst with a decent amount of ring rust transitioning into a new unfamiliar style all that fight was, was a compliment to George's chin.

 

I mistakenly replied to you pardon.