Prime George Foreman vs Zhang

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Jun 11, 2024.


Who wins and how

  1. Zhang stoppage

    12 vote(s)
    16.4%
  2. Foreman stoppage

    61 vote(s)
    83.6%
  3. Zhang Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Foreman Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    that too, is not the quote.
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this u ?
     
  3. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    This you?

    "You said Zhang is bigger so he hits harder story over"

    I'm waiting for you to quote me saying that.

    You said that you had a quote.

    Doesn't seem like that you do.

    So, you made it up.

    What you need to do is try find something that I said with Zhang in it, in relation to him hitting harder than Foreman. Then you need to quote me saying that it's only Zhang's weight that makes him hit harder than Foreman.

    Hop to it.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    It's simple. You didn't bother to read the argument in context so you jumped into the mudpool and made a big splash.

    You assumed stuff.

    You didn't parse the argument.

    Now you're in a corner that you painted yourself into and are trying to find a way out.

    The way out is simple.

    Admit that you thought hastily and made a mistake.
     
  5. BCS8

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    Look, I'm not here to make mortal enemies. Honestly, I don't care enough.

    This content is protected


    May I get sand in my bed if I post again.
     
  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You've been debunked on your stance numerous times, you being so unwilling to engage as to why Zhang hits harder is proof enough, everyone sees that you argue Zhang is hitting harder because he's bigger otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned a 250 pound guy hitting harder than a 220 guy due to physics as apart of your argument

    @InMemoryofJakeLamotta responded to the same post of yours that I quoted, because that's your stance as to why Zhang hits harder, otherwise why would he, or literally everyone else trying to call you out for the shaky logic. You still have yet to respond
     
  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    You're right, it is simple. You could simply respond to what people are saying defending your stance, or admit what you said was dumb.

    You made a blanket statement that a 250 guy hits harder than a 220 guy because of pHySiCs. When questioned on that and given a simple comparison between Lennox Lewis or Shavers and asked who hits harder, you said Lewis would beat Shavers instead of answering the question. This is just like how you ignored my direct question asking whether it was more impressive to KO Frazier or Wilder.

    So you are either

    A) Too stupid to defend your argument

    B) Unwilling to defend your argument because you realized that claiming a heavier guy always hits harder is nonsense.

    C) All of the above


    You then wasted Markus' time dodging questions (and he was very polite and patient) and pretending your stance wasn't that size is the greatest determining factor in punching power (it very clearly is in the quote Markus posted 4x). Anyone skimming through this thread would find that consistent with your other views such as calling Ted Gullick microbial or claiming Foreman "bullied" Chuvalo with a 3 pound advantage.

    You are an attention seeking child and you aren't as smart as you think you are. The whole forum now knows that when challenged on things with basic questions you'll simply run or hide and pretend to be the "smart reasonable one" while everyone else is just crazy or biased. :lol:
     
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  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Classic thread which demonstrates pure dishonest arguments and gave me an insight into certain posters. Zhang just got cooked by Kabayels non stop pressure, maybe Frazier really would beat him.

    Foreman stops Zhilei after getting off the ground similar to the Lyle fight
     
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  9. Philosopher

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    Nothing like the Lyle fight. Foreman tucks his chin in and smashes Zhangs body, stops him quicker than Kabayel. Zhang is an exciting but overrated fighter with the movement of a wardrobe and the stamina of an asthmatic octogenarian running a marathon...up a hill...in the desert....
     
  10. Kid Bacon

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    I wonder how this thread reached 20 pages; when it was already settled in page 1...
     
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  11. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    Weird regular argument in the Foreman threads that just makes matters worse for GF’s chances… “he wasn’t that small in his prime just dehydrated!” - so now he’s a dehydrated mid sized fighter? No wonder he was falling over himself when it wouldn’t go his way, possible explanation for why his chin improved as an old man and why in the 70s Young used him as a bobble head and Lyle almost put him out with the first right hand he threw lol.
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zhang would get his ass beat by tiny Quarry and Frazier lmao overrated as hell
     
  13. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whats funny is I think Zhang was winning this poll when it started and he choked just like in his real fights.
     
  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Except when facing a shot Wilder.
     
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  15. HistoryZero26

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    Yup and a certain 12 individuals were going to give him the keys to the HOF after that one.
     
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