prime gerry cooney vs prime big cat williams

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  1. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cooney was at least 6'6.
     
    El Bujia, Nov 26, 2011
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  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    yes, i think he must have been. do you think it would be an advantage over williams?
     
    choklab, Nov 26, 2011
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  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It'd be an advantage, of course, but I'm not so certain if it'd be enough to win the fight. I don't know who to call here, but expect fireworks to go off early, and the fight to end not too soon afterwards.
     
    El Bujia, Nov 26, 2011
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  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cooney was the better puncher, I think he ends it rather quickly but Cooney was a frail guy I just dont think Big Cat can get to him before Cooney gets to Big cat
     
    Bummy Davis, Nov 26, 2011
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  5. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams record was just as padded as Cooneys, Cooney had some better wins like Lyle and Young, but they seemed way too easy. Williams and Cooney are both overrated, Cooney cause of Holmes bout and White hope hype, Willimas was promoted right and bought along to contender status, then flunked. Maybe if he had not been shot in 1964 he would have improved, but he went downhill after being wounded in kidney by cop bullet.
     
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  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Good point. I agree cooney would apear to be the faster starter.
     
    choklab, Nov 27, 2011
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  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    This is correct. They are both overrated. Williams was groomed correctly then indeed flunked where as Cooney ridiculously became a million dollar contender on account of the distasteful mainstream attention he received bypassing decent seasoning.
    　
    After the Holmes fight Cooney was no more potent as Williams was after that shooting. The difference was by 1964 Williams was already 33 years old and had had 67 fights so without the shooting williams could never have improved.
     
    choklab, Nov 27, 2011
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    How do you see williams get on against cooney?
     
    choklab, Nov 27, 2011
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  9. tommygun711

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    Terrell and Machen>Shot Versions of Young, Norton, and Lyle
     
    tommygun711, Nov 27, 2011
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  10. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Cleveland Williams hammers brian london in about 1 round
     
    SuzieQ49, Nov 27, 2011
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  11. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    By 1964 Williams was 30 years old and looked as good as ever being on the verge of a WBA title shot against Terrell. Cooney wasted his career by drinking and inactivity while Williams's career was derailed because he got shot.
     
    TheGreatA, Nov 27, 2011
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  12. mr. magoo

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    Cooney TKO 3.
     
    mr. magoo, Nov 27, 2011
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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    But after 67 fights the cat was not going to get any better. he drew with a contender who johansson Knocked out in a round many years earlier and went the full ten rounds twice with a guy (daniells) who terrell and chuvalo KOd. That was by 1964 - he was no more the world beater cooney ever was generations later...
     
    choklab, Nov 27, 2011
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Yet frankie daniels went ten rounds with the big cat twice, I dont get it.:huh
    wold you say Cooney is a different fighter to London?

    was frankie daniels a better fighter than brian London?
     
    choklab, Nov 27, 2011
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  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    :deal cooney was a fast starter.
     
    choklab, Nov 28, 2011
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