Prime Golota v Prime Bowe.

You were what 10-11 when this fight took place?

You were still running around with a kool-aid stained upper lip when these fights happened.

Stop trying to give us history lessons on Golota because all of the info you have is old news to us yet new to you.

Yes Golota is everything you say(cant argue that he brought it upon himself)but what you fail to mention is that he was a very talented and skillfull fighter(more skill than most HW's of his day).You fail to mention that Bowe had yet to face another big man with skill like Golota(he ducked Lewis).You fail to mention that Golota was a top rated Heavy and earned his shot through beating some good contenders.

He never had the heart to beat a fighter like Bowe?Well did he not KICK THE LIVING **** OUT OF HIM TWICE?His heart wasnt the problem it was his mind.He already had Bowe beat twice and had Grant beat easily also.

And i repeat stop living off of BOXREC.

 

Does you being born in the US make you biased towards Bowe?

Does use that one on me i call like i see it.

 

I seen both Golota/Bowe fights plenty of times, and the first one especially was competitive, with both men getting rocked. Golota chose to foul Bowe because he felt frustrated because he couldnt knock him out, Golota just didnt have it mentally to ever win a title or even beat a top ranked guy. I have said in earlier posts that Golota did have good skills, but prime for prime Bowes just more of a complete fighter, and his record shows that. I understand your a big Golota fan, but come terms with the fact that Golota never had what it took to beat a good fighter ever in his career, name one good fighter he beat and prove me wrong.

 

Im not so lets get that clear!

You are BOXRECing it and looking at Bowe's record and saying to yourself "how can someone who beat the Holyfield lose to Golota".

You are trying to justify it by taking Bowe out of his prime which is clearly not the case.The first fight they claimed it was his weight,he came in lean and in good shape the second time around and the result didnt change.Golota was a better fighter than Bowe period.(No not historically not resume wise or all time or any of that but fighter vs fighter man on man he was a stylistic nightmare for Bowe)

 

Listen, thats stop the insults, you say your not a Golota fan, fine. But I certainly dont BOXREC it like you claim, I have a good collection of boxing tapes I watch frequently, and I do have a decent amount of Bowe tapes. Bowe had comparable jab and power to Golota, they both are close to the same size as well. I feel the only real difference between them was Bowe was stronger mentally in the ring, which I feel is half the fight right there. Bowe in 92 would tough for anyone to beat, how many big fighters do you know that was equally dangerous from the inside as well as the outside? Bowe I feel wouldve hurt Golota early and would of stayed on him until imploded, the 92 version would of been in enough shape to that IMO.

 

Im glad you brought up that jab BTW which is another KEY reason why Golota had Bowe's number!Bowe ALWAYS had the superior jab in all of his fight(mainly because he was the bigger man)until he met Golota.Listen to Merchant and Lampley touch on that during the fight.For the first time in his career he was getting outjabbed.

Bowe's forte' was the overhand right usually set up by a jab"a 1-2".Take away that set-up punch(jab)and his overhand right isnt being landed as frequently.

One more thing Bowe always threw wide looping punches(even in 92) while Golota were straighter faster and came in multi-punch combos.

KEEP in mind(since you hold Golota's crazyness against him)that the public had yet to know the extent of how crazy Andrew was at the time of the fight.

 

Golota beat the **** out of Bowe twice. Bowe apologisers will say that he was overweight etc, but he was that ever since winning the title in '92. Note that

a) He still nearly beat Holyfield in the rematch at that weight
b) Stopped Holyfield in 8 rounds just months before Golota I at that weight
c) Was 235lbs for the rematch
d) Never faced a talent big man like Golota

Golota had incredible boxing talent. Some of the punches and combinations he put together in those fights, really magnificent.... my favorite 90's fights. Bowe would probably win by DQ again, but Golota would always give him a shitload of trouble. Bowe never faced a skilled big man outside of Golota. He ducked Lewis (obviously wasn't confident he could beat him), and what are his wins outside of Holy? A scared Donald? A glass chinned Hide? Please. Bowe's defence has always been pissweak; even journeyman had up to 50% connect ratio's against him! Holyfield got the better of almost all exchanges in their first fight, but because he was so much smaller he was worn down himself.

 

Good post, Bowe was getting beat to the punch in both fights, that is very true. I take nothing away from what Golota did in both fights, until he started throwing low blows, My question to you is, why do you think he chose to keep hitting Bowe with low blows? My only theory was that he was so frustrated he couldnt knock him out, he chose to foul out instead. I think both mens skills prime for prime were comparable, but mentally I feel Bowe had the clear advantage, and thats why I feel Bowe would beat Golota prime for prime.

 

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bowe by ko in two.

 

Gotta run to work i will touch on this later.

 

Fair enough buddy!:good

 

Golota would win every time

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He blew out Dokes and Ferguson (defeater of the great Ray Mercer) and held two wins over Golota.

 

Golota-Bowe were great fights. Golota would KO Bowe if they fought today. No DQ.

 

My point was that although both Bowe and Tyson IMO had explanations for their respective losses, neither performances was so bad that anyone can say Tyson and Bowe would kill Buster and Golota IMO if they were at their best.