Prime Haye Versus Prime Tyson

From Barrett? Is Monte considered a big puncher? Nah...Haye is a good athlete but he's not a great HW. He's better at CW. He'll beat some fringe guys like Monte but he won't beat anyone in the top 10. I think Valuve is going to be too big for Dave. He's gonna have to move well which his footwork and headmovment need honing.

 

That's where you **** up. Tyson vs Buster was clearly when Tyson was not dedicated, nor under the tutledge of anyone who got him to the peak of his overall performance. When Buster beat Mike, Mike didn't have a corner or a trainer and was surrounded by Don King yes men. But even that version David would have got smashed.

 

Haye absolutely demolished a prime Monte Barret. Tyson never faced anyone like a focused Monte Barret, he feasted off of bums and I cant imagine him beating Barret or Garry Delaney who was an absolute beast and Haye demolished him as well.

I just feel that Haye has already KOed guys who are better than prime Tyson, so theyre just isnt any argument here. Haye is already a lock for top 10 ATG and if he beats Valuev he breaks my top 5.

 

Carlo was on his way OUT! He wasn't anything CLOSE to what a prime or even past his prime Carl Thompson was at the time Dave "gassed out". Dave probably had a bad night b/c he should have wiped the floor with Thompson, yet he lost. There is no need to debate Prime Tyson vs any version of Dave b/c he's not on or near anything a Prime Mike was.

 

is this thread serious....

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tyson ko

 

That Polish guy Bonin was like upgraded version of Tyson and still Haye destroyed him in one round.

 

Yeesh Im a huge Haye fan but there is no way his chin ( which is not as bad as some would have you beleive ) holds out against Tyson.

That is unless Haye fought really smart and tired Tyson out , but lets be honest he wouldnt he would charge right at him , he might well hurt Mike but it would only be a pause before Tyson got too him.

 

Unlike me.....:roll: Ok, I've never been to the gym...never started boxing by the age of 8 and never faught in the AM. Sure buddy....whatever you say.

You think....but you have no idea. The styles that Mike and Dave have are COMPLETELY different. If you fight......I feel for you bro. Some guys I've been around shouldn't put on gloves or step foot in the ring, but I respect their courage. But that don't mean they should be trying to box!

Haye is not slick or defensivley sound. Mike was defensivley and offensively sound. His combination of speed, explosiveness, power and overall head, foot and body movement made him EXTREMEMLY hard to hit. Don't come in here with your bull**** wet dreams about David being on level with a prime Mike brah. You will get laughed at...which you might be use to, but I'm trying to save you some embarrassment.

Haye don't have the kind of POWER you are speaking of at HW. He's got power but he's not the BOXER you are giving him credit for. David is a great athlete but he's got many holes in his game. He gets by at CW b/c it was a weak division and he was the best of a group of weak Crusier weight.

Now...I will say David would be a good CW in a good era b/c of his athletic ablity and talent but he'd need to improve his game.

 

And How many good fighters has David Beat?:rofl Jean Marc? Monte? Thompson? C'mon brah....Tyson beat spinks and that is better than anyone David has ever even though of facing. Tyson never ducked Lewis partner...Tyson was mis managed the later part of his prime years by Don and deteroriated his skills by the way he managed Mike.

Haye doesn't even look great against bums...he looks good, but Mike Destroyed opposition where Haye merely beats them.