Prime Head 2 Head Calzaghe vs Hopkins...

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  1. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    Never
     
  2. KCD

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    Bwahahahaha:rofl

    Hopkins was hugging for dear life towards the end, if Hopkins is sooooo good why didnt he finish Joe there and then?

    Its alright fighting at full speed someone who has nothing to effectively punish you (Pavlik) but if Hopkins had fought at that spped against Joe he would have been worked over and the racist bell end knows this.

    I said the Pavlik fight was a clear win for Hopkins right from the start, Pavlik was waay to green and overated, Hopkins saw this and took advantage of Pavlik's shortcomings to make it look as though he has re-invented himself.

    How many first round ko's has Hopkins had in his whole career? 3 maybe 4.
     
  3. dan-b

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    A revisionist could put a similar spin on Calzaghe's win over Lacy. A victory Joe zealots hold up as one of his defining moments.
     
  4. KCD

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    Maybe so, but i would say Calzaghes win over Kessler is better than any of Hopkin's wins.

    Also Lacy was more proven than Pavlik.
     
  5. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Both very debatable points. I think JC fanboys are placing a lot of credence on the fighter they think Kessler will become. What wins do you give Lacy that show he was more proven than Pavlik?

    I think the tendency to downplay Hopkins win over Tito is a recurring theme among JC spin artists also. Tito had won and unified titles against top opposition at 147 and 154. He also annihalated Joppy in a way no-one else has done.
     
  6. KCD

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    I think the Tito fight was a good win for Hopkins.

    As for Lacy he at least defended his titles, Pavlik beat Taylor twice and then had an awful defence against Gary "the soothing" Lockett who wasnt even number one in the UK.

    I respect Hokins but i think his resume is very similar to Calzaghes.

    Both fighters have some good wins:- Kessler, Jones jnr, Lacy, Jonson, Tarver, etc.

    Both fighters have some decent wins:- Reid, Woodhall, Echols, Joppy

    Both fighters have some god awful defences:- Hakker and Pudwill.

    Both fighters only started getting the major fights and recognition they craved when their ages where advanced.

    The only difference is between the two fighters is Hopkins HAS lost.

    As for Kessler i think he is the real deal, i maybe wrong but as you say time will tell.
     
  7. Cobbler

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    As a paid up JC spin artist, I'd like to reitterate that I view Trinidad as absolutely Hopkins best win.

    And Lacy being more proven than Pavlik is a hard one to back up. Not that I think Pavlik is particularly proven at the top level, but Lacy had fought old versions of Vanderpool, Sheika and Reid.
     
  8. dan-b

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    I accept all of that, really I do, but what I cannot swallow is the way people seem to be suffering memory loss when it comes to JC's career. Either that or they're purely ignorant (more likely with the British mainstream media). JC is an opportunist and I will never see him as anything else.