Prime Henry Armstrong vs Sugar Ray Robinson

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Prime Armstrong vs Sugar Ray Robinson

  1. Armstrong KO/TKO

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  2. Armstrong Decision

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  3. Robinson KO/TKO

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  4. Robinson Decision

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  5. Draw

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  6. See Results

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  1. VeryMoistWalrus

    VeryMoistWalrus New Member Full Member

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    Armstrong was pretty much over the hill when they fought, how do you think the fight would have gone down if Hank was in his prime? Would it have gone different or would it have gone down the same?
     
  2. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Well if Armstrong was at his peak Ray would have fought differently. Robinson idolized Henry and didn't want to fight him. He had to though to get Armstrong a last big payday.
    Sugar Ray carried Henry Armstrong the distance doing just enough to win without hurting his hero. A few writers caught on from ringside.

    With Robinson punching with bad intentions I think he stops Hank in the mid to late rounds. Sugar Ray was too fast and powerful to walk into like Hank did unless you had a natural size advantage.
    Probably a good fast fight with Ray slightly ahead when he finds one of those lefthooks on the sweet spot. Sweet as Sugar.
     
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  3. White Bomber

    White Bomber Active Member Full Member

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    SRR beats him anytime, he is the undisputed GOAT.
     
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  4. ron davis

    ron davis Active Member Full Member

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    Armstrong avoided a lot of tough guys in his prime that he wouldn't fight. Jack Dempsey, said "Newspapers make champions not the fighters."
     
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  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's definitely disputed who is the GOAT and I don't think that SRR even has the best case. Give me Langford's and Greb's resume over his. Armstrong also has a case.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Disputed. I agree Robinson always always beats Armstrong though, disaster for him. Well, you could argue when Robinson was a very green lightweight, he fights prime Armstrong and doesn't like it, but generally.
     
  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Active Member Full Member

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    Ok, not gonna argue with that. For me, SRR is untouchable. If we had any footage of Greb, perhaps I might change my mind, but we don't, so I can't.
     
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  8. BCS8

    BCS8 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds like you hate Floyd :partyhat:
     
  9. White Bomber

    White Bomber Active Member Full Member

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    Hate is a big word. I don't like his style, but I don't hate the man. He's in my top 10, just not no. 1
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Armstrong wasn't anywhere near as far past his best as often made out. Since his losses to Zivic, he'd beaten Willie Joyce, Sammy Angott, Tippy Larkin, Lew Jenkins, Juan Zurita and Zivic in a rubber match. Doesn't sound like someone who was shot, to me. Sure, the loss to Jack is probably indicative of where he'd slipped to, bit the fact he was still good enough to beat various lower-tier all-time greats shows he wasn't close to being shot IMO.

    That said, he got absolutely NOWHERE with Robinson. He was too small, too slow and just not good enough. I don't think reverting him back to the form he was in for the Ross fights would change that. He'd do better - and stylistically, he's perfect to beat Robinson - but he won't ever win IMO. I doubt anyone below middleweight does. Although the fighter I'd give the best chance to is actually a lightweight, and who I regard as the best fighter ever. Duran.
     
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  11. thistle

    thistle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the UK was/is famous for it!

    SRR by Stoppage.
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We're talking a a CLASSIC bout here definitely !

    I see Robinson's more varied work ensuring victory for him. SRR by decision.
     
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  13. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And so did Robinson...
     
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  14. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Full Member

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    Armstrong was pretty one dimensional in his attack. I have Ray stopping him
     
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  15. White Bomber

    White Bomber Active Member Full Member

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    So in your opinion Duran is the GOAT ?!
    Or is he the best ever, meaning the best in terms of peak form ?!
    Which one were you referring too ?