Prime Holmes vs. Prime Foreman

Holmes outboxes him handily, winning a wide UD, possibly even stopping him late in a 15 rounder.

 

Foreman KO's him IMO. Good fight though.

 

This has always been a fight that I thought about alot. I think its difficult to make a prediction on this one.


I'll say that if Foremen doesn't stop Holmes early, he's going to have a rough time late. Maybe even getting stopped (stamina-related) by Holmes.

 

Holmes wins a wide UD.

 

Foreman got outboxed by Jimmy Young, limited fighters like Ron Lyle could hurt him and go to war with him. Holmes has the perfect style to handily beat Foreman. He could be outboxed by a good outboxer, and Holmes would do so easily. Worst matchup for Foreman.

 

I would feel more comfortable picking an effective pressure fighter like Frazier against Holmes instead of a brute/slugger like Foreman. I think Foreman has his moments where he traps Holmes in a corner or against the ropes and swings away, but Holmes would establish his jab and technical superiority as the fight progressed. He outboxes George.

Holmes UD (or like others said, a late TKO)

 

You have got to be kidding me. There is a reason Foreman is one of the Greatest Heavyweight's of all time. This guy had trememndous power and could KO you at any point even if he were to be dominated for 14 and a half rounds. Prime Foreman KO's Prime Holmes IMO.

 

Holmes would win a decision (if a 12 rounder) in a 15 rounder a prime Holmes would stop Big George who, wouldn't have had the stamina to keep up with Larry, to bad these guy's never fought, Larry is to good a boxer to lose to Foreman..:happy

 

When did he he prove that? You're thinking of someone like Marciano. Again, he got outboxed by someone like Jimmy Young for God's sake, and you think he beats Holmes, a much better version of what Young implied?

Foreman was very limited. Against swarmers/pressure fighters who came to him, he was a beast. Against good outboxers, he was made to look less then stellar, sluggish, in fact. He is one of the best based on what he accomplished, but have a look at his style, he is very susceptible. Especially to a style like Holmes. Holmes is an ATG himself, don't forget. Foreman gets handled style-wise.

 

So I guess you have Jimmy Young ahead of Foreman on your all-time list?
The Foreman that destroyed Frazier KO's Holmes IMO.
Just too much for Holmes to handle.
Foreman KO'd one of the best HW's in the world when he was 45.
Holmes couldn't do that.

 

I don't have Young ahead of Foreman as an ATG, what does that have to do with anything? This is a head to head matchup thread, not an ATG list. What you're doing now is trying to bull**** because you've ran out of decent analysis for this matchup.

Why is the Foreman that beat Frazier too much for Holmes to handle? Tell me why. Frazier came right to him and got beat up, as I said in my other post, Foreman beats most who come to him. Young boxed him and beat him. Frazier was outboxing him in the rematch for a few rounds actually, and if Frazier's outboxing you on the outside, you know you're limited. Foreman had trouble with outboxers, big trouble. Holmes was arguably the best outboxing HW of all time. He was also capable of taking a punch, as proved in his fight with Shavers.

What does Foreman KO'ing Moorer have to do with a fight with Holmes? This is a Head to head matchup. Either concede defeat or stop posting worthless material un-related to this matchup.

Foreman was mediocre against outboxers, and would be possibly stopped against arguably the best outboxing HW ever.

 

I have to agree with most here that Holmes wins by decision. I guess there were two opportunities for this fight to have taken place, 1977 or 1992. I think the 77 fight might've been a bit more interesting. Holmes could've been decked here. Foreman would've had a chance at a KO. Still I think Holmes wins on points. In 92, both guys were reduced to jabbers and Holmes was a bit more active with his, and quicker with the right hand. Foreman wouldn't have been able to catch Larry with anything surprising if they'd fought as old men.

 

Foreman did beat Norton who was a good boxer.
You keep sayiing that Jimmy Young beat George Foreman so it sounds like to me you think he is a better fighter than Foreman.
May I remind you again Foreman came out of retirement to become Worldheayweight Champion again at the age of 45.
And also, your boy Holmes got outboxed twice by Spinks who was KO'd by a fighter in under 1 round by a fighter similar to Forman.

 

Norton froze against big punchers. His record against them is pathetic.

No, I'm using that as an analytical point for this fight,. If someone as simple as Jimmy Young could outbox Foreman from the outside, Larry Holmes most CERTAINLY could.

Please, tell me what that has to do with this matchup. We're not arguing greatness(even than I give the edge to Holmes), we're arguing a head to head matchup between the two. Style-wise, Holmes holds the big edge. Let me also remind you of how badly Moorer was outboxing Foreman prior to getting KO'd late by more of a phantom punch than the one Ali hit Liston with.

Holmes clearly won the rematch, that was a robbery, by most accounts. Some even believe he won the first fight. And again, what in the hell does Spinks getting KO'd by Tyson(who fights NOTHING like Foreman aside from power) have to do with a matchup between a prime Holmes and Foreman?

You're reaching and falling drastically short in this one.