Prime Holyfield VS Prime Lewis

First minute. Lewis landed 2-3 jabs at 2:40 of the round, and he landed a good body punch at 2:33 followed by 2 jabs. Holyfield landed nothing. Watch it yourself and tell me second by second how this is different than what I've said. That's a far cry from Lewis landing nothing.

As for your contention that Lewis landed nothing in the last 30 seconds that's incorrect also. He landed once perhaps twice, just before Holyfield responded with a 4-5 punch flurry. It's admittedly a close round, but one I thought Lewis won due to the activity prior to the last 30 seconds of the round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7a3i1VyUkY

 

Lewis may have landed one jab at 2:40, the double pump and right cross were quite clearly ducked.

Honestly not sure the body punch landed that good, given the camera angle and Evanders guard. I'll give it to you. The two jabs later are caught by Evanders glove, if that's what you are talking about.

So this is Lewis domination...a jab or Two and punch to the body you have to squint to see. This won him the round for you?

:30 Holyfield right cross, no dispute, lands flush.

Lewis misses right hand at : 12
Holyfield parries and smothers three Lewis attempts, a left, uppercut, and right cross that is clearly deflected in real time and the replay. You even have little confidence of anything landing...once, perhaps twice.

A short right hand hurts Lewis, a follow up left hook is rolled with but sends him back paddling. Lewis grabs and Holyfield gets two clean right hooks to his head.


Lewis simply did not do enough in that opening minute to cancel out giving up the cleanest and most visibly effective punching of the fight at this point. If he had been active and dominating the round, I could see your point, but ultimately all you have is an obscured body punch and a touching jab or two.

 

Didn't win him the round, but it won him the first minute of the round, (if one fighter is doing something, and the opponent is doing next to nothing, the fighter doing something wins.) That basically describes what happened up to the last 30 seconds.

So I'm not comparing the 1st minute of activity to the last 30 seconds, rather I'm comparing what happened up to that point to determine if Holyfield did enough to steal the round in the end.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you're saying categorically that Lewis landed nothing in the last 30 seconds, is that correct?

 

Holyfield got some jabs in the second minute, not all clean but he was busier and made contact if that is your criteria.

Lewis did not appear to land. You can't even figure out what he laned, you are just insiting he might have landed once...or twice.

No doubt, Evander landed though and with what.

 

Lewis landed at 3:33 it was an upper cut. The reason I'm not sure about one or two punches is because Lewis' back is to the camera and it's hard to tell if one or two punches landed or not. They were certainly thrown, but it's hard to tell if they landed, missed, were blocked or what happened. Since I didn't see them land I have no choice but to assume they didn't, but I did see at least one land, and that was the upper cut. He threw something right after that, just before Holyfield responded, but again it was unclear whether or not it landed, because Lewis' back was blocking the view of the shot.

As to what took place after that, we agree that Holyfield landed 3-4 unanswered punches. He could have stolen the round, depending on the criteria used, but overall I thought Lewis was the busier fighter during most of the round, and he did land one or two unanswered power shots leading up to this 30 sec exchange. Like I said, it's one of the 4 rounds I consider close.

 

Lol.. What are the landed Lewis punches in the last 30 seconds?

Two misses right hands that aren't even close and a blocked jab\grab and uppercut?

 

The uppercut hits Evanders arm, it was blocked.

The right hand follow misses by a mile.

there is slow motion replay from the facing angle of Evander deflecting the right with his arm and countering.

 

2:33 he clearly landed, you really have to be blind not to see it. It was an upper cut.

 

I've watched this 5 times now, and no way was the upper cut Lewis threw blocked. (unless you define blocked as being blocked by Holyfield's face)

 

knock downs are easy to score. But when a fighter wins 2:30 minutes of a round and other fighter flurries and lands meaningful shots at the end, it's a bit harder to call. Course if you actually watched a couple of fights and tried scoring them yourself you'd know there's room for interpretation. Why do you think professional judges can have such widely differing scores?

 

I know what you are talking about, Lewis only tries 3 punches in the closing seconds.

The uppercut does not appear to land, It bounced off Evanders raised arm.

I'm not blind, but I guess I need Lewis vision.

 

You think a man's face is in his left arm?

 

How did he win on the second minute? Evander was busier with the jab and actually landed a clean body punch on camera, that was your criteria for the first minute?