prime holyfield vs prime Wladimir Klitschko

this is not some fighter. its atg.

why u ignoring that?

its like you are saying.... oh kimbo slice can beat rocky Marciano, because...umm...fighters of the past aren't unbeatable gods LOL!

 

Anyway point being that being better boxer dosent automaticly mean Holy would have more success against Wlad.

He could have but with referee who allows hugging it would be much like Povetkin vs Wlad. Peters brute power and agression helped him lot in that much. Holyfield dosent fight anything like Peter in that match

Referee who actualy played with the rules I would see something along the lines Holy vs Lewis

 

Wladimir has stated that he is 6'5''.

He doesn't balloon up in weight but his conditioning in general is bad. When did Lewis or Bowe ever completely gass out after 4 rounds like Wlad did against Brewster? His stamina is Frank Bruno level. He works at a minimal workrate which boils down to mostly jabbing and the occassional powershot.

He has a slightly better hook, but the very essential uppercut is completely missing from his ****nal, as well as the fact that he can't shorten his punches, which leads to him being completely clueless about inside fighting and having only a single response to it - clinch.

His jaw has been proven more vulnerable and he is mentally incapable of dealing with pressure and adversity, unlike the other two. Are we done here?

 

your posts are just made of lies, cooper was huge at 6 foot 2. and European champion.


every word is literally a lie -

coopers not 5 11
coopers not a journeyman
coopers not some guy
cooper does hit hrd.

why present lies as an argument, they jus get destroyed by anyone who replies.

 

The only fighter you list that went the distance with a prime Holyfield, is Alex Stewart, which occurred in between the Bowe 1 and 2 bouts; a restrained and measured performance, from which Holyfield scored a near shut-out (having previously TKO'd Alex Stewart in '89).

 

Wlad has no inside game. His mental state shatters when he gets hit. He can't handle Holy without the ref allowing him octopus him to death.

Even under those condidtions , id favour Holy adapting and making/finding openings.

Its an instant blow -out with a proper ref in there

 

Are we talking with or without PEDS ?

 

good man.

 

prime holyfield could float like like a butterfly. ap might get what adilson rodriguez got.

 

Just remember the Holyfield that took Lewis 24 rounds was a long way from prime.

For me the super quick prime Holyfield destroys any version of Wlad.

However Wlads jab and grab with a poor referee could be very effective.

 

Proven wrong:

Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nJMKASSOBw

And Time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Cooper

AND TIME AGAIN
http://boxrec.com/boxer/1596

 

He has said that and it's wrong. He is used to the metric system.

He lists his height as 6'6 1/2 on his website which is right.

http://www.klitschko.com/en/vitali-wladimir/wladimir-klitschko/

He can shorten his punches:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CkrXfSv5c

If his jaw is vulnerable then why is he the longest serving HW champ that hasn't been knocked down?

You are getting obliterated boy.

 

And Wlad knocked a top contender unconcious. What's your point boy?

 

bert cooper?

why is he even being discussed here?

I was sure you meant Henry Cooper, Bert is insignificant at world level.

ok sorryyou weren't lying, just discussing non-relevances.



EDIT -AHA I see, tis about waldos chin, that's why Bert Cooper was brought up.
BUT of course Wlads chin is weak, everyone in the world knows it, he got poleaxed bya retired non acheviing fattie who never contended when prime. Why is that being even debated?

Still I don't think Bert is relevant here, I agree with you if you mean that.

 

How can anyone have a boxing discussion with you when you can't follow the conversation?

Bert is being discussed since he was a Holyfield opponent who gave him trouble in their fight. I would reckon that is very relevant to the discussion.

You should be banned for not paying attention.