Prime Holyfield vs Wlad Klit

Thanks.

 

You actually picked Holy after that fight I believe.

But as for Holy being unable to put opponents away, he has stopped Tyson, Douglas, Moorer, Thomas, Dokes, Stewart all better than anyone Chagaev, Ibragimov, Peter, Brock have stopped. Bowe, Foreman, Holmes and even Lewis were all very durable

Holy without a doubt is a higher level to anyone Wlad has fought, he could slip a jab and get inside, work at a frantic pace and throw painful combinations. Not to mention he has the boxing skills, speed, workrate and athleticism that is foreign to todays HW division, Wlad aside.

 

Holyfield relatively easy. The late 80's version threw way too many punches and was able to take punches from bigger hitters than Wlad. Evander by ko from anywhere between rounds 3-9.

Keith

 

Holyfield by KO around the 7th round I believe.

 

We are talking about prime Holyfield, and this is definitely not the one who lost to Lewis (still, he made the rematch competitive). Bowe did not have much in common in Wlad apart from being big and having good punch.

Bowe chin suspect because Golota floored him? Better rewatch the fights, Bowe was like a punching bag for about 20 rounds and it was strange he was still standing.

 

Official scoring:
9-3
8-4
7-5.

I agree the 9-3 was too wide but the other two scores are exactly in line with what most people say. I don't see how there can be much complaint about the scoring. I think Lederman had it 8-4. 7-5 seems popular but so does 8-4, Vanboxing and me for example picking that. I've always said it's a strong 7-5 or a possible 8-4...much like the first fight is a strong 9-3 or a possible 10-2.

Anyway, this fight is all about whether Holyfield can impose his pressure to draw Wladimir into duking it out. Against an intense attack Wlad would need to dig deeper than he probably has so far in his career, but that doesn't mean he can't necessarily do it. If he can keep Holy at arm's length and keep the jab firing well I would give him a chance at this, even if Holy would be the favourite.

 

I can understadn 7-5, but 8-4 is ridiculous. Holy was the aggressor and backed the big man up most of the fight. Lewis just jabbed pretty much and refused to engage at times. Why would a scorer reward that?

For the record, I had it 6-6, so I could see how someone might have it 7-5. I see I need to dig up more on the scoring. Is it that you don't believe others raised questions on the silly scoring of the second fight or that you don't believe it's true? Please let me know. I don't want to go dig up something you already know about.

I completely accept your opinion on the scoring if you do not agree, but it's not like I'm the only person saying the scoring was off. I should add though, as I see Holy in my avatar and Lewis in yours, I don't see either of us, no matter how we might try, being totally unbiased about the fight.

Also for the record, Holy in his prime beats Lewis, no doubt.