Prime Holyfield would be THE Smallest top heavyweight of today

You could say Holyfield beats every Cruiser and Heavyweight ever and i wouldn't complain

 

I’d say Joe Louis would be up there as well

 

Holyfield is 6' 2.5" as is Usyk. Holyfield ranged in weight at heavyweight from early at 205 to the 215 to 218 range , fluctuating based on his match up. Either way he seems far physically stronger and ripped than Usky. I also feel Evander was faster and a much bigger hitter .. Usyk is his own sort of genius and I have nothing but huge respect for him. Both men have terrific chins ... I feel Evander who took on Tyson, Bowe and Lewis would have been competitive with anyone at any era .. I think in his prime he tears up Fury or Joshua for sure ...

 

You can say this about many HWs who are smaller than Holyfield as well.

Cruiserweight has prevented many guys smaller than Holy who'd have tested the waters at HW in earlier eras from reaching HW. Those guys could win at HW today they just will never get the chance.

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if many times these days crusierweights are coming in the ring at 220lbs+, middleweights usually come in 10-15lbs heavier than 160lbs, but crusierweights boiling down to 200lbs have more water weight to boil down and put back on, since they’re bigger.

 

Yes, when you look at people who were labelled or nicknamed as ‘big’, even today’s Cruiserweight a when they move up are often heavier than them.

It’s the same day weigh ins combined with the fact that they moved Cruiserweight from 190lbs now to 200lbs why even big heavyweights back then would make Cruiserweight.

Also, even guys like Ali would actually be average sized Cruiserweights today and Frazier may actually be slightly below average size for a Cruiser.

Also, I think if they set rehydration limits for every weight, guys wouldn’t be trying to drain down, they’d only drain as much as they can afford, and will be able to put on, and they’ll fight at the weight that suits however much they put on.

So if they only let you put on 4lbs after the weigh in, someone who walks around at 164lbs in shape will make weight on the day, and easily rehydrate which would also make it safer for both guys.

 

Yes, even though Williams and Liston may be big Cruiserweights, they could certainly make it with modern day weigh ins.

But I also feel like 200lbs for Crusierweight is too high, I wouldn’t call Usyk for example, a small heavyweight even today, he may be below average, but he can stand up for himself when he has to and even gets big heavyweights on the backfoot at times.

I think 190lbs was the perfect weight for Cruiserweight, I don’t know why they changed it.

 

To be fair Usyk is the biggest CW ever, man dwarfed everyone in the face-offs at that weight.

 

Usyk is 6ft 3ins at most and was 207lbs on fight night vs Hunter.

You need look no further than tonights co-main event to see a bigger former CW. Okolie is 6ft 5ins and whilst I don't know of a documented fight night CW weight for him, I'd bet good money he was over 207lbs. He was 262lbs tonight, to Usyk's 227lbs.

 

Jesus Okolie some self control mate…

 

Bang on.