Prime Holyfield would have KOed Prime Lewis

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  1. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Asinine topic.

    LL beats Holy on his best nite.
     
  2. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Struck a nerve? My point is that Holyfield is constantly overrated whereas the opposite is true of Lennox. Many cite the Bowe battles as though Evander won all 3 instead of losing 2 of them. Lewis was too big and too skilled for Holyfield. One thing about Lewis though, that McCall rematch needs to be scratched from the record. A mental breakdown does not equate to beating the guy.
     
  3. essexboy

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    Lewis beats Holyfield prime for prime. Cant see what all the fuss is about personally.
     
  4. Freedom

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    No one ever knocked out Foreman, not even Ali. The closet anyone ever got to knocking him out was Ron Lyle.

    Lewis and Holyfield fought twice, a draw and close decision fight(**** the judges scoring), it could have gone either way. At the top of their game, Holyfield defeats Lewis.:smoke
     
  5. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you might want to check your facts re Ali Foreman. I'm pretty sure it was Ali by ko in round 8. And yeah I agree, **** the judges, Lewis won both times but the second fight was closer.

    Holyfield's record as a heavyweight; 24w, 10L, 2 draws.
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Stfu. Lewis didn't train hard for both Mccall and Rahman first fight cause he thought it be an easy fight. I bet Lewis didn't even know who Rahman was. Lewis would have prepare better vs a Prime Holyfield. I still think Lewis beats any version of Holyfield. The reason Lewis vs Holyfield was a closer fight i the rematch cause Lewis wanted to trade with Holyfield instead of boxing Holyfield in which it's not a smart thing to do. If Lewis that easily beat Holyfield in the first fight ( yes it was a draw but anybody with a damn brain knows Lewis easily beat Holyfield) would beat any version of Holyfield.
     
  7. p.Townend

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    Id put my money on a prime Holyfield.But maybe not by ko,i think he would win big on points.
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    That's nonsense. The opposite is true. Lewis is grossly overrated, while Holyfield is often extremely underrated - as many of the comments in this thread demonstrate. You never saw Holyfield taken out early by fighters on the level of McCall and Rahman.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Actually Holyfield did lose to Moorer ( who imo is the same level like Rahman and Mccall)who doesn't have the pop that Rahman and Mccall brings and Holyfield never take any fighters lightly while Lewis has in which is why Lewis lost twice.
     
  10. Big Ukrainian

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    Prime Moorer was much better technician than both Mccall and Rahman. Much faster, much better skills, better defence, and better offencive arsenal - McCall and Rahman had only one really good punch - big right hand. Southpaw Moorer had good straight left as well as right hook and excellent uppercuts. He was less predictable than McCall or Hasim.

    And don't forget that it was very close pts win for Moorer (vs Holyfield), while McCall tko'd Lewis early, and Rahman knocked him out cold.

    IMO: Prime Holyfield (1989-1993 at HW) beats Prime Lewis (1996-2001) by UD
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Disagree. Moorer has better skills then both Rahman and Mccall but Moorer was still on the same level as both of them. Dude Moorer went life and death vs freaking Botha for crying out loud. Dude Botha? lol man. And Moorer after beating Holyfield was ko by a 45 years old Foreman.
     
  12. Big Ukrainian

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    Yes Botha wasn't that good. But Moorer still Ko'd him while Rahman was Ko'd twice by Maskaev (who is on the same level as Botha) :good
     
  13. Brighton bomber

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    I would favour Lewis prime for prime in a close fight.

    I find it strange that those who favour Holyfield and use the 2nd fight as an example, stating that if an old Holyfield could be so competitive a prime Holyfield would clearly be victorious, yet completely ignore the first fight where Lewis dominated.

    A prime Holyfield was more agressive and more active but that just made him more hittable. In the Bowe fights when hit he fired right back but in the first Lewis fight when hurt he did the smart thing and covered up.

    It's such a bad style matchup for Holyfield. Bigger, taller opponent who wouldn't engage him like Bowe and Evander didn't have the power to do what McCall and Rahman did. I personally see a fight much like Lewis/Mercer but not as close.
     
  14. DamonD

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    Especially if it was in a normal sized ring and not that 16x16 box used in Lewis-Mercer.
     
  15. madballster

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    Unless a prime Holyfield was 5 inches taller I see little chances for him vs. Lewis.