Prime Hopkins: What were some of his big wins?

Funny thing about threads like this is, the very same people that are tring to run Hopkins down now will be the very ones tring to build him up should Cazalghe happen to win this fight. We have seen the Cazlahge fans do this time and time again.

Its kinda dumb, its like when you go to a college basketball game here in the States were one team (the away team) is highly ranked and the lost to an unranked team and the dumbass fans start singing that dumb OVERRATED song. Not smart enough to understand that they have just downplayed the win for their own team:hey

Look only the very blind would try to suggest that Cazlaghe somehow has a better resume then hopkins. Hopkins has fought the VERY best fighters for over 14 years while Joe has fought a handful of good fighters.

 

I picked Hopkins to stop Tito and he did. I was surprised that so many picked Tito to win, never understood that.

I was impresed when Hopkins stopped Tarver, more impressed than the Tito win. Hopkins is a tough old goose, knows his way around the ring.

 

Hopkins never stopped tarver but i see what u mean

 

Great post.

And this happens all the time. Like when Pavlik KOd Taylor...people were on here screaming Taylor was a bum AND that Pavlik was the best ALL IN THE SAME POST!!!!??? Its like, if you really think he is a bum, then how does that win make your fighter the best?

I honestly dont think most of these posters picking a lopsided win for Calzaghe really believe it....as some of them are good posters for the most part. They are playing down Hopkins because, for some reason in their mind, its impossible to give credit to the enemy. They feel that, by giving him his dues, they are somehow admitting he has a chance...and lets be serious...this site isnt KNOWN for people who do that on a regular basis.

Hell there are even people who, on one post will say Taylor is a bum who got a gift win in a robbery vs Hopkins, then in another post, call Hopkins a bum who lost to Taylor.

Anyone who truely believes that Hopkins has no chance (or Joe has none) hasnt watched boxing enough for their opinion to really matter anyway.

:good

 

Hopkins has a chance but it's pretty slim

 

I see it as exactly opposite. I give Joe a chance, albeit a slim one.

I think that with Calzaghe's speed and workrate he could take a close decision if you have judges who favor the aggressor...but I think that because of Hopkins phenominal defense, movement, timing and accuracy (not to mention how good he is at fighting dirty)...all things that history has shown to be POISON to a fighter who relies on speed and workrate (see Williams - Quintana for the most recent of hundreds of such examples)...the more likely outcome is a win for him.

 

Tito was doing well at the time and Bernard Hopkins was virtually unknown over here in the UK (and still is). Often people will pick the name they know to win over someone they never heard of or know very little about. I didn't pick anyone, I thought it might be 50/50, though I wasn't surprised at Hopkins winning against Tito at all.

 

Calzaghe is very smart and adaptable. He's about 5 levels above williams

 

Sounds like Calzaghe - Lacy over here. Leading up to the fight, few people (casual boxing fans) had heard of Joe. But they had seen Lacy's ferocious KOs and thought he was the truth. I for one, had been a fan of Calzaghe's since his win over Eubank and KNEW he was a NIGHTMARE for Lacy's slow (albeit powerful) looping shots...not to mention his fundamental deficiancies...for example bad footwork, no defense, marginal ring intelligence, etc... I actually won a good sum of money just betting with a few of my friends on this one.

Im surprised that Hopkins still isnt well known over there yet. Shocked even. Maybe that speaks to why so many are picking against him, giving him no shot, or downplaying his greatness.

:huh

 

You gat to be joking or picking with the Calzaghe fans - Joe has a slim chance against Bernard? Man, Joe triples-up Bernard's output, has faster hands and feet and many say that Hopkins doesn't have the big equalizer... Now you guys are going overboard with the joke! Calzaghe throws every punch in the book, can connect with heavy blows and when he goes for the whirlwind attack, Bernard can't avoid getting hit.

 

Hopkins is arguably the smartest fighter in boxing. He is also unbelievable at making the opponent fight his fight.

AND HE IS ABOUT 50 LEVELS ABOVE QUINTANA!

I wasnt comparing the fighters...I was comparing the style matchups.

 

Dorf, your a great poster. I respect your opinion alot. But you have to know that timing, movement and accuracy are absolute poison for speed and output. Its been proven time and time and time again.

Joe is MUCH faster. Joe throws MUCH more. Joe is the harder puncher.

Hopkins footwork is WAY better. Hopkins is WAY more accurate. Hopkins timing is among the best EVER in the sport. Hopkins is smarter. Hopkins is better at making the opponent fight his fight. Hopkins is dirtier (if you dont think this will matter your crazy).

Winky threw triple what Hopkins threw (and was favored going into their fight)...Hopkins outworked him....mainly because, Hopkins movement and timing negated Winky throwing in volumes or even being able to sit on any kind of punch. Same is the most likely thing to happen here.

 

sues2nd -- may I ask... what's with the Boy George avatar? Lost an avatar bet, right?

 

Nawww! Wright didn't triple Hops' output, did he? In fact I'm looking on BoxRec (yeah, I know) right now. It says Wright threw LESS! 640 (Hops), 618 (Wright). Wright landed more, though. Let's also remember the headbutt. That affected Winky BIG TIME throughout the rest of the fight.

And besides, at 170, Winky Wright was more like Wonky Wrong.

 

Yeah....****in Taylor.

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