Prime Jack Dempsey vs Prime Razor Ruddock

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 16, 2017.



Who wins and how

  1. Dempsey KO/TKO

    17 vote(s)
    54.8%

  2. Dempsey UD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  3. Dempsey SD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Ruddock KO/TKO

    14 vote(s)
    45.2%

  5. Ruddock UD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  6. Ruddock SD

    0 vote(s)
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  7. Draw

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  1. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know about that.. This to me is slugfest, doesn't go past 6 rounds, and is coin flip. Tyson has around 27 pounds on Dempsey, was extremely fast, hit hard with a chin. I do think Dempsey is the better boxer, fast as well with better infighting.. But out the gate, there is no argument against the huge physical advantage Tyson has on Dempsey.. Both are landing big shots in this one and saying that one can easily best the other is underestimating the other guy ..imo
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    How about the fact that Tyson beat a whole different species of heavyweight.
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I was making a funny
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 19, 2017
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Assuming that Dempsey could take Ruddock's power. This would be a 230-240 pound power puncher landing on 180-190 pound Dempsey. But if he could take Ruddock's power or alternatively put serious hurting on Ruddock first, then Dempsey could win.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 20, 2017
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Who did he fight who was anything like Ruddock?
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 20, 2017
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    For the worst, I might add.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 20, 2017
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  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The only guy Ruddock fought that was anything like Dempsey took his best sunday punch square on the chin and kept coming forward.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 20, 2017
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  8. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Tyson?

    To be fair, Tyson was 25-35 pounds of muscle heavier than Dempsey and even as a washed up fighter took Lewis punches for 8 rounds and still went down partly due to stamina. I don't just mean "like Ruddock" or "like Tyson" in terms of just style alone, but in the sum total of attributes to include style.

    Lamotta dropped Ray Robinson who was very similar to Ali in terms of style, but very different in physical attributes so Lamotta dropping Robinson wouldn't mean anything as far as him being able to probably drop Ali is concerned once you factor in the physical attributes.
     
    InMemoryofJakeLamotta, Nov 20, 2017
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  9. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yeah but Dempsey and Tyson were still similar.
     
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  10. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Jess Willard was a power puncher and Dempsey took his punches.
     
    Mr.DagoWop, Nov 20, 2017
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  11. MMAMIKE

    MMAMIKE Member banned Full Member

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    DEMPSEY IN 7
     
    MMAMIKE, May 26, 2020
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  12. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Dempsey by decision

    Tyson was a bigger harder hitting and more refined version of Dempsey. However, Dempsey was just as fast, had an underrated jab.

    IMO once Dempsey realises how strong Ruddock's smash is, he avoids it. Dempsey had a very good overhand right hand and i feel that he will nail Ruddock with several hard rights everytime Ruddock drops his left. Dempsey gets there first with his speed.

    Dempsey UD in an exciting fight.
     
    dmt, May 26, 2020
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  13. Brockton Rock

    Brockton Rock Member Full Member

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    Dempsey KO 6
     
    Brockton Rock, May 26, 2020
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