Prime James Toney vs Deontay Wilder

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  1. mostobviousalt

    mostobviousalt Active Member banned Full Member

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    When Peter focused on the jab he practically shut out Toney.
     
  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Whilst toney has proved himself against over the hill HW champsand weak HW champs, Wilder might prove a bridge just too far for him. Maybe. He certainly has most of the advantages outside of size.

    But the real factor is that Toney had to cheat to win those HW fights. Without cheats, Wilder should be bet on to win.
     
  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Toney might actually knock Wilder out. Wilder is one of the more mediocre fighters to win a HW belt. His record is very padded and he's shown vulnerability in his chin on multiple occasions, even against the tomato cans that form the bulk of his record.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Wilder is just too much man.
     
  5. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Toney was one of the most skilled slicksters in recent times. He had bags and bags of talent and elusiveness.

    He would eat Wilder alive literally, eat him alive in there. Wilder would not land anything and most likely end up getting countered constantly and stopped in the middle rounds.
     
  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wilder by lop-sided unanimous decision. Toney didn't throw enough punches. Toney needed you to come inside so he could hit you with sneaky counters. Wilder would just stay at arms length and score.

    Toney would never outbox Wilder if Wilder stayed outside. So Wilder would.

    Toney wasn't very elusive at heavyweight. Rahman outjabbed him all night long in their first fight. I thought Rahman deserved the nod in that one, and all Hasim did basically was jab.

    If Toney got aggressive, Wilder might score a late KO. But Toney had a great chin. So I'd lean toward wide decision win for Wilder.
     
  7. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    No one knocks out Fat Toney. Anyone who believes that hasn't seen him fight. He took heavy shots from Sam Peter at HW.

    Wilder is still unproven and he doesn't have the engine to fight 12 rounds. Watch him gas in his last fight.

    Toney takes this by KO - remember he KO'D Holyfield at HW.
     
  8. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Can you please explain the cheats Toney used to win the hw fights?
     
  9. mostobviousalt

    mostobviousalt Active Member banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was shot and a favourable stylistic match up.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Wilder would have his guts for garters. Too fast and too rangey . Toney's counters would fall shot by a few inches.
     
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  11. daverobin

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  12. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Toney would stop him
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    PEDs, in a word.