prime James Toney vs prime Rocky Marciano (12 rounds)

marciano ud

 

Sam Peter throws three punches a round. Marciano's output is, well, slightly higher. The accumulative damage of one round Marciano at his best is draining. 15 rounds, at his best, is damn hard to last out.

 

Archie was under 40 when he fought Marciano. Check again. Some historian/filmmaker you are

Why don't you tell us again what a murderous contender Luis Firpo was

 

Watch Marciano-Moore. I mean actually watch it. Marciano is hittable and readable, that much is known. But how the hell is anyone but the very hardest puncher around 190lbs supposed to deal with him? When Marciano found a rhythm, it was left, right, left, right, left, right... Very predictable, but unstoppable, because nobody can evade every shot. The ones that landed must have sapped energy, especially that awkward left uppercut (possibly the most utilised left uppercut in history). Toney would need a railway spike in each glove to raise his chances.

 

Mcgrain,

Toney may have an excellent chin...but I don't think he is on the skill/speed/power level of a Archie Moore(who got destroyed by Marciano). Archie won only 2-3 out of the first 8 rounds. I don't see Toney doing any better. I don't even think Toney has the power to keep Marciano in place. how is toney going to stop Marciano from throwing shot after shot? Toney, suffers a severe beating in this fight, imo. For almost every round..if we are taking Marciano at his best. I don't think Toney matches up well with 185lb ATG swarmers with great two fisted power and relentless stamins.

 

It would be interesting...But Marciano by comfortable decision.

 

Take a punch. As I've already mentioned, Toney would be within range to get hit but Marciano wouldn't hit James Toney flush on the button the entire fight. Even if he did, "Lights Out" wouldn't get sparked. I know it sounds crazy to pick James Toney over The Rock but I just think Marciano would get outclassed. I made the same prediction with a Jerry Quarry-Rocky Marciano thread although I'm a bit more confident with the Toney prediction.

 

Vassily Jirov and Evander Holyfield less big and durable than Rocky ?
Who would have given the 6 years older , 5" shorter , fat former middleweight a chance against them ?
Yet he knocked wach one of them down and stopped Holyfield .
Sam Peter may have been less able of causing accumulative damage than Marciano but also had a greater punch resistance ("chin") than Rocky , and was much younger than Toney fight time , not to mention he too was bigger than Marciano .

 

It would be a worse version of Marciano-Moore with Toney possibly being able to absorb more punishment (Due to his better chin). I don't know why I picked Marciano by decision. I guess Toney can take a beating and last the distance but he's going to be abused and shut-down.

 

If Toney goes the distance with Marciano, he is destroyed afterwards. It would take everything out of him.

 

It would be a tough fight because of styles, but Marciano by UD.

 

Safety first option would work even worse. Now that Toney doesn't have the power to keep Rocky honest and is going to box he's going to be broken down. Eventually, when Toney can't keep Rocky honest he will be so sedentary near the ropes that he will get his body pounded at. Toney's feet are just far too slow, and he's not slick or fast enough to avoid Rocky's shot when he is planted. He will get overwhelmed by a barrage of punches. Even Moore had better movement, and at least power to make Rocky try to stay honest. Toney's also going to find that crouch more difficult to hit than he would most men. Toney has zero pray in winning IMO.