Prime JC Chavez vs. Manny Pacquiao@130....who wins??

chavez woulda smashed pac...casual sports fans are the only 1's who wld think otherwise

 

nope..... if this fight indeed happened, it will be a national holiday in the philippines and day of mourning in mexico.:yep :yep i guarantee you, if pac did it to mab (MAB is nowhere between JCC BTW) but still a legend, then i dont see any problem pac doing the magic again. :good :good

 

whats up bro... :bbb

 

Is that how you make choices? atsch By who was P4P?

Why don't you tell us HOW Pac would win. And BTW, saying he was too fast or strong does NOT work.

Either way, it's extremely doubtful you've even seen many JCC fights. But hey, give it a shot.:deal

 

Yup, and Trevor Berbick was greater then Ali!!

 

hello my friend lance... i will give you reasonable answer since you are diplomatic tonight.

jcc may be a technician, but he loves to go forward and trade when he gets excited. as history says, most fighters who went toe to toe with packy suffered a ko or brutal punishment.dont get me wrong jcc has iron chin, but pacs relentless attack will wear him out. on the other hand if jcc goes to his style of not getting excited and play his pace, then pac will get frustrated which will lead to jcc getting the ud. i would say at 130 it will be 40 to 60 favoring jcc. :deal

 

Well, even if JCC gets excited and goes toe to toe, the history of JCC says he wins as well. Just saying you can't just use Pacman's history there. They both have a history of winning brawls.

 

nope, i will go with my boy. jcc's history with going toe to toe are fighters who were classified as class b and c (althouh it indeed happened at 130 ). and pacs history was phenomenal ( mixture of A, B abd C , although pac is still creating his name at this weight ).. i will give the edge with my boy :good

 

Most fighters Pac faced, and by most I mean ALL, were NOT Julio Cesar Chavez or in his league. JCC was a VERY hard hitter not to mention one of the best at attacking the body. I seem to recall Pac getting stopped by a body shot.

Either way Pac has not shown anything @ 130 to make you think he competes with Chavez. He split fights w/ a fading Morales. That's about it.

And here's where you say he MADE Morales that way while like that ignoring ALL his previous wars. atsch

 

Not gonna argue with you. Chavez fought plenty of A class fighters. I would say more than Pacman certainly. Ramirez, Rosario, Taylor, etc.

 

but most fighters jcc faced at 130, WERE NOT IN PACS LEAGUE EITHER .... jcc was a hard hitter which is true but how about pac?? 3 pound per pound (JMM, EM, MAB) went down more than 10 times. you can argue that other fights didnt happen at 130 and pac didnt prove at 130 yet, but still these are class A fighters being mentioned in the ring magazine. now can you name 3 fighters that jcc defeated at 130 that belongs to the elite?? NONE. you may argue again that pac didnt either at 130, but remember pac is going up and trying to find his niche.
pac got kod when he was 17, a malnourished guy who couldnt even afford a 3 meals a day. look at how pac evolved.. his physique, his stamina, it is totally different now. dont give me the crappy reasoning about em... em fought a head butted pac. em won,no excuse, but please you know that you can see better with two eyes than one. you know that lance and em couldnt even put away a 1 eyed pac... it was even close :deal ...chavez will have a hard time facing pac. he will face a fighter that is far superior to those guys he defeated at 130 :deal

 

Remember this. Chavez was a hard hitter at 140 too....Pacman is smaller than Chavez. Pacman will not be the harder puncher in the ring with Chavez who fought all the way to 154.

 

above 130 jcc history is phenomenal... nothin to argue about that and jcc will smoke pac.

 

What he did to Marquez and Barrera @ 126 or Morales @ 130 is meaningless. We aren't talking about them. All you do is try to talk about P4P or names. You have no clue how this fight would happen. atsch

You keep saying how Chavez has naver faced anyone like Pac, who at 130 BTW hasn't really proven anything, but please, tell me who Pac beat that was like JCC if that's your logic.

 

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i am telling you pound per pound names because it is the measuring stick.. did you get the logic??? let say you are the employer for a IT company and you are interviewing 2 candidates for a particular position. you got jcc and pac. both of them went to the same ivy league school, young and ambitous. but jccs job experience was a hohoom one. his companies are not even in the fortune 500. but here is guy applying linking his name in the top companies... excluding other characteristics, NOW TELL ME WHOM WILL YOU HIRE??? :hey :hey

on the other hand,
what about a guy named mab?? number 3 pound per pound totally destroyed ..... not on the level with JCC (BUT BEFORE PAC TERMINATED HIM, HE WAS CONSIDERED MEXICOS ELITE and compared with the greats..... now you will say he is nowhere to jcc to save your ass :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl ..... tell me who at 130 jcc defeated that is pound per pound and close to pac level???? :deal