Prime JC Chavez vs. Manny Pacquiao@130....who wins??

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  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    All these emoticons make me think that johnco is to Manny Pacquiao as bigtime9 is to Floyd Mayweather.
     
  3. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i know you are amazed red manure... you are my number 1 fan :lol: :lol:
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But by your logic, if you were that company, you would need to look at Pacman's resume at 130. He hasn't beaten a P4P fighter at 130.

    You aren't asking your questions right.

    You ask who JCC has beaten that is P4P at 130 close to Pacman.

    The inverse is who has Pacman has beaten at 130 close to Chavez.

    You cannot say Pacman is linked to all these great companies (beaten fighters I presume at 130 is your analogy) because he isn't linked to any at 130. Just a past his best Morales who was not P4P when he beat him. And Morales did beat him.

    So if you are going to ask these questions, you need to ask them correctly.

    You need to answer the same question your asking in reverse. Who has Pacman beaten that is P4P and is close to JCC's level at 130?
     
  5. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    as i have said he is moving up and doing fine..... and hes number 2 right now.... :good morales won with a head butt :yep :yep and this is part of his resume ...

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    isnt it impressive???
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not going to do these games. You know how many fighters have been headbutted? If thats all it takes to beat him, then he is in trouble.

    The point is, this is the fundemental problem with your arguing your points. You ask questions, but when asked the inverse of your question, you don't answer it or you respond with something that has nothing to do with the actual topic. Examples:

    He is p4p #2 doesn't mean anything to this argument. If it did, I would just point out that once Ring started its P4P rankings in 1989, by 1990 Chavez was #1 and stayed there 3 yrs in a row. You would lose that argument based on that.

    You can't talk about people making excuses saying that MAB isn't as good as JCC when before he lost they were comparing them. I would simply point out that you just made an excuse for Pacman losing to Morales that happens in many fights and the fighters get past it. There have also been a # of excuses for his other losses.

    Just trying to help you here.
     
  7. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    good brooklyn. i am just a happy man because i have the bragging rights ;) ;)
     
  8. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and being number 1 pound per pound but you were busting cabby drivers and class b and c is nothing special.... pac may be number 2 (OR SOME SAY HE"S 1 ;) ) but he is terminating pound per pound fighters like flys :rofl :rofl and as i have said, pac didnt prove anything at 130 "YET" but pac beating THE NAMES below 130 and jcc beating cabby drivers and b and c at 130 ,which is not in pac leagues, is easy to comprehend .. i hope you've been helped :good
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Well then. Mayorga was on the P4P lists for a while. As was Vernon Forrest. I guess that makes them ATG's. :patsch

    Johnnyboy, you really are cluless about this sport. And I don't say that to be a jerk, I'm telling you because you just are.
     
  10. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He absolutley is.

    Hey johnco, you know how stupid Bigtime9 comes off right? Well, I got bad news for you child...:yep
     
  11. johnco

    johnco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    mayorga and forrest.... where are they now?? :D pac is still around and kicking...:good
     
  12. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You have no bragging rioghts child. What have you done to earn any bragging right? Be a nuthugger? :huh Pac is the one in the ring. You're behind a keyboard doing nothing..
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    That's not the point. I doubt you even know what I was tlaking about. You are TOO MUCH like Bigtime9. You post what you want, and ignore anything else.
     
  14. johnco

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    no bragging rights??? and why...arent these bragging rights??

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    now show me yours???? :deal
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't get it. I can pick you apart and all you can do is get mad and pretend you aren't by trying to make jokes. I was trying to honestly help you because you don't seem to get why you and Pacdbest get jumped on constantly. You don't argue actual points.

    You can't talk about JCC's competition at 130 since Pacman hasn't beat anyone at 130. One top 10 fighter isn't very good. He isn't terminating P4P fighters. It will get turned against you.

    Pacman hasn't beaten anyone on Chavez's level. So you can't use the argument that JCC never beat anyone on Pacman's level without having it thrown back in your face.

    You are arguing your opinion against facts.

    Here are the facts. BTW, you guys love to use Ring to make points. It will be used against you now.

    You are talking about Chavez's competition at 130 being weak?

    He beat Lockridge and Mayweather, both Ring champions at that weight with Lockridge being #4 and Mayweather being #3 when he beat them. He beat Martinez, the #3 fighter by Ring when Chavez beat him. He beat LaPorte who was #3 when Chavez beat him. These are not cab drivers....or does Ring rank them?

    Now compare Pacman's resume at the same weight.

    You can't win this argument.