Prime Jirov vs. Haye at Cruiserweight

Jirov would grind him down and knock him out late.

 

:nonoPlease don't even take an iota away from Toney's performance that night. He beat a top rank fighter in the most impressive manner of recent years. Vintage performance and peak, peak Toney - combining experience and a close to physical prime.

P4P, I'd back the Toney of that night vs virtually anyone of the past decade, save perhaps the mayweather of the Hatton fight and the RJJ of ruiz.

 

Bingo we have a winner folks.:thumbsup

 

Short, sweet, and to the point.

 

"We're talking about the awesome boxer/mover southpaw Jirov. Not the one that fought Toney, but, the earlier version."

This clearly implies that this earlier version of Jirov was better than the one who fought Toney. That to me, takes something from the way Toney beat jirov,. which was simply imperious.

If I have misinterpreted your implication, i apologise.

 

Jirov by K.o.

 

I'm not a Haye fan.

Frogmeni nearly beat Haye

But styles make fights............haye would like Jirov;s upright style

Plus he is a bigger banger than Toney

Haye by KO ..........early to mid rounds to late rounds

Any ****ing time..............but Hayes power is gonna nail him at some point

Styles make fights

 

I agree.

 

Jirov would wear him out and KO him.

 

I think Jirov could definitely win this. But Jirov is one of the best cruisers of the last 20 years.

 

Why not the one who fought Toney? That version was as prime as he could ever be.

 

Jirov by late mid to late round ko.

Lets say rd 8.

 

Sort of, but the slightly younger version of Jirov showed a little more versatility than against Toney. Jirov, while for the most part was a stand up, come forward grinder, could move both laterally and his head when he wanted to.

He actually fought the wrong fight against Toney.

Haye is an interesting matchup for Jirov--if you look at pure styles Haye has the advantage based on the puncher beats swarmer maxim. However, my analysis gives Jirov the slight edge because of two things:

1. Jirov has a granite chin. I think Jirov would throw in some head movement to avoid lots of big, flush shots and would be able to weather the ones that did land. He is not the kind of fighter that gets taken out by one big shot.

2. Jirov was absolutely relentless, using body shots to set up a head attack. He would get to Haye and grind on him. Haye still has issues of stamina in my mind, especially at Cruiserweight, and if you fade at all late in a fight, Jirov will punish you.

Fragomeni was able to grind Haye a bit, and Jirov is a far superior fighter to him. Vasilliy weathers this storm and either gets a late round stoppage or a unan. decision.