Prime Joe Louis vs Corrie Sanders

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  1. BCS8

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    Sanders' resume is very consistent. With the exception of the Tubbs and I guess the Rahman losses, he found a way to win even when he was in woeful shape. He beat the #1 man at the same sort of age when Marciano was tipping Louis out of the ring.

    And even if we look at Tubbs and Rahman, they could absolutely have beaten the tar out of guys like Galento and Braddock, who somehow contrived to lose against guys with LOSING records not once, but a few times. That indicates to me the quality of some of Louis' opposition may not exactly have been up to scratch.
     
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  2. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    i do fail to find your counterargument. everyone does.
     
  3. janitor

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    I would not compare win/loss ratios between a fighter from Louis's era, and a fighter from Sander's era, because they were just matched so differently.

    A potential contender from Sander's era, would be managed from his professional debut.

    Whether they were matched easy or hard, they were basically matched to win, until they were in with the top contenders.

    People like Galento had to prove themselves, before a manager with resources would even touch them.

    They would fight the other potential contenders, often multiple times, and hope that somebody decided to invest in them.

    The only person from Louis's era, who compiled a pretty record on the way up, was Louis himself.
     
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  4. BCS8

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    That's a fair enough post, but you did kind of claim that those guys were the elites of their times. If not them, then who?
     
  5. janitor

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    These guys were the elites of their time.

    I don't hold it against the era that they were losing to other fighters of the era.

    Even excusing that however, you still have to ask why a standout contender did not emerge.
     
  6. richdanahuff

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    I see a similar fight to the way Max Baer started out when he pinned Louis in a corner and unloaded....Louis was focused and took over..


    I see the same thing here
     
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  7. Rock0052

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    There's a grade of heavyweights that I don't feel comfortable favoring over the greats, but whom are dangerous enough to pull off upsets over guys who, legacy wise, are above their pay grade.

    Sanders is in that group.

    Joe's earned the benefit of the doubt from me, but it wouldn't be a shock at all if the front-running Sanders got to him first.
     
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  8. cuchulain

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    This is all true.

    But Sanders probably stops any version of Galento 99% of the time and Braddock most of the time.

    And while I would pick (best for best) Louis over Sanders, the upset is a possibility.

    Before the fact, I think Sanders over Louis is more probable than Douglas over Tyson.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    How much harder do you think Sanders hit than Marciano?
     
  10. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    His demolition of Wlad was impressive, but Wlad did get better after that fight. Now, it doesn't mean Wlad's ability to take Sanders power improved, but it does mean it would have been harder to land the KO on him.
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    This is reasonable
     
  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I just wouldn't like how Corrie Sanders would've left himself exposed to a master counter puncher. I was reviewing some footage of him vs Vitali and he was wide open at some points

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  13. Seamus

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    I think we have no option but to favor Sanders overwhelmingly in this match-up.

    Next thread...
     
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    It seems that sanders was much better at impressing boxing fans than he was at winning fights.
     
  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Overwhelmingly???

    o·ver·whelm·ing
    ˌōvərˈ(h)welmiNG/
    adjective
    adjective: overwhelming
    1. very great in amount.
      "he was elected president by an overwhelming majority"
      synonyms: very large, enormous, immense, inordinate, massive, huge More


      • (especially of an emotion) very strong.
        "an overwhelming feeling of gratitude"
    Bit of an overstatement, don't you think?