Prime Joe Louis vs Nikolai Valuev: Is He just Too Big

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Louis was known for stopping wide open giants. But this giant would be over 7 feet tall and about 320 pounds. Could Louis stop him and be the first to knock Valuev down?
     
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  2. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Louis TKO 11. Ugly and brutal towards the end.
     
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  3. Gatekeeper

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    Joe would be able to tee off on the lumbering giant, if David Haye could make Valuev do the chicken dance the first time he sat down on his punches then Joe could do the same and earlier than Haye.
     
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  4. VVMM

    VVMM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about the Chagaev-Valuev? He was too big and too ****.
     
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    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Joe would literally destroy the guy. Way to slow and lumbering. And he wouldn't fight him like Haye did. Joe stops him around the eleventh with a barrage of pin point accurate punches.
     
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    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It wouldn't take that long. The accuracy of Joe Louis against that big of a target would be incredible. He wouldn't miss.

    But that's always a non issue to most folks when using the size counts over other measurable's; acknowledgement that the bigger guy is also a much bigger target.
     
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  7. Gatekeeper

    Gatekeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valuev lost to Chagaev, David Haye and got lucky against a 45 year old Holyfield - all small HW's.

    The Brown Bomber would ****ing destroy Valuev. Lol.
     
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  8. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Louis easy. Holyfields rotting corpse got robbed against valuev
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    All that was missing was the ski masks and shotguns
     
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    crixus85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Timber !!!
     
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  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Valuev would make a loud sounding crash should he fall.
     
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  12. janitor

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    The guys who actually beat Valuev were not huge heavyweights.

    Chagaev was 6' 1'' with a 74'' reach, and he was nothing like in shape at 228lbs.

    Is this really a guy who was significantly bigger than Louis?

    The ageing Evander Holyfield, weighted exactly the same as the Joe Louis of the Walcott fights when he fought Valuev, and some people think that he won.

    I won't use David Haye as a model, because of his unorthodox tactics, which Louis would be unlikely to emulate.

    My point is that Louis is probably big enough, even without being a great fighter!
     
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  13. Jamal Perkins

    Jamal Perkins Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly a 4-5 round annihilation.lol old man holy found it easy enough to pop in and out. Very easy win for louis
     
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  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Valuev did beat Monte Barret
     
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  15. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    As I recall, Holyfield was alive when he fought Valuev
     
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