Prime Jones Jr would be dismantled now by the MEN at 160, 168 & 175

Reggie
Griffin
Hill
Tarver
Calzaghe

 

What myth?

It's called circumstances.

Life is defined by circumstances and opportunities.

He didn't have to beat lineal champs etc.

They'd have just been statistics.

 

There is nothing to hate. Joe was never that special ,he took on bums for the majority of his career and added names just to make his resume look good ..I'm no steroid apologists I just know it does t make you a better boxer nor does it give super human speed or a better chin but you come here and say some of the dumbest things I have ever read beginning with this thread ..

And if you followed his career he wasn't ever a big guy but your making him out to be the rock ..And your last sentence proves it's something personal with you maybe he beat your favorite fighter like I said who knows your probably a disgruntled Clinton Woods fan.

 

He was undisputed lhw champ he also beat Tarver to regain the undisputed LHW championship after he won his WBA HW belt .

How many fighters have done that ? Just curious ?

 

Yeah, it really looks as though you're a fan of Roy's.

What's the BS?

Again, it's circumstances.


How many examples do you want?

Wladimir Klitschko currently looks great in his late 30's.

Whereas Ali looked like sh*t in his late 30's.

But in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing.

Everyone ages differently depending on their circumstances.


Joe Calzaghe - was 36 years of age, and he'd had 45 fights, across two divisions. On THREE separate occasions, he told everyone how he wasn't interested in Roy, because Roy was shot. Roy was 9 weeks from his 40th birthday, and he hadn't won at the top level for 5 years.

Antonio Tarver - was 35 when he beat Roy. But although they were the same age, Tarver didn't turn pro until he was in his late 20's. Going into the fights against Roy, he'd only fought 23 times. Whereas Roy had fought over 50 times, and had been through five divisions, and had gone to HW and back, losing muscle in the process.

Reggie Johnson was 33, and was past his best when he fought Roy. But he was still a very good fighter, and Roy beat him with ease.

Virgil Hill was 34, and was also past his best. But Roy beat him with absolute ease, and was the only person to have stopped him in a 57 fight career. Hill went on to beat Fabrice Tiozzo in a single round at CW, two years after he'd lost to Roy.


Don't forget two things:

1. Joe wanted nothing to do with Roy when he was prime.

2. Roy beat Tarver in their first fight.


If Roy beat Tarver after 50 fights, after moving up to HW and back, and losing muscle in the process, there's no reason why he couldn't have beaten him when he was younger and fresher.

Joe was never good enough to have beaten Roy anywhere near his prime, which is why he said he wasn't chasing him in 1999, and he'd have wanted 'the Crown Jewels' in 2003, because he knew the RISK involved.


:good

 

Did you enjoy 'Bad Blood' at the weekend?

You've got some of the names and the weights mixed up here.

But what point are you trying to make?

 

Another **** thread by a **** poster.

No one beats RJJ at 168, ya hear?
Froch couldn't catch Ward, he wouldn't lay a glove on Roy

 

The 3 guys you picked at LHW are arguably the 3 LEAST powerful guys he fought at LHW!