Prime Jones Jr would be dismantled now by the MEN at 160, 168 & 175

Instead of Fermin Chirino, let's try Thulani Malinga.

 

Eubank used the term "suicidal" out of respect? Why not say, "it would have been a great fight"?

Did Jones in return say it would have been "suicidal" to face Eubank? Of course not, because it would have been obviously disingenuous for him to say that. When Eubank says it people are like, "yeah: suicidal. That's about right.".

Tiberi "boxed the **** out of Toney"? Really, did he go unscathed for 12 rounds like Jones. Was it a clinic? Have you seen the fight?

 

No. Prime Roy was a specimen. No one has or will be as ultra talented as a prime RJJ. He was just operating at a level no one could match....even for the ruthless crop of fighters we have today. They are tough as nails and well rounded but Jones would have made light work out of them by superior athleticism, reflexes and overwhelming speed. But I do think these guys today are very talented and nothing to discredit. We have some real potential in this era......But a lot of us forgot about what kind of special fighter Jones Jr was in his hay day.

 

Good point....But I'm not so disillusioned to think some if not all of these other top guys are in some way on enhancements. Not that I really care if they are or aren't.....I honestly just want to see the very best of these talents fight the top available opposition and see how they stack up.

But yea....I totally did NOT take that into account.

 

You said he "boxed the ****" out of him. In fact it was a sloppy war fought at close quarters. Tiberi out-toughed him but early in the fight Tiberi was rocked an out on his feet. It was a messy fight. In the end, nobody ranks Tiberi over Toney as a boxer. It has little significance other than to show that Toney was inconsistent. It's like Lewis' loss to Hasim Rahman or Wlad's loss to Brewster. An aberration.

Although he was inconsistent, did anyone ever put on a clinic against Toney in his entire career? Nobody except Jones.

So I give a lot of credit for Jones win over Toney, the way he did it, etc. Because nobody else did it like that, nor could they.

 

Aquamarine - Been discussed in the Could James Toney ever have touched Roy Jones?, but Toney was going to get a rematch with Jones if he beat Griffin in their rematch.

 

Froch gets picked apart, no contest.

Kovalev, too slow and chinny.

GGG stops Roy early with brutality, it's a style thing.

 

That isn't really fair though. A big part of Roy's success was his style. He figured out how to ambush the chess players and counterpunches of his day. He wouldn't have been prepared for some of the newer guys like Kovalev and GGG.

 

I see Roy schooling GGG at MW, UD or possibly late KO.

He KO's Froch at SMW.. wtf is Froch gonna do to Roy? It takes him 3 days to throw a punch and blocks them with his face.

He KO's Kovalev pretty easily as well. They're both Chinny and have power but I'm gonna go with the guy with the more experience.

 

What do you mean he won't be able to juice? I myself believe that Roy took some **** to bulk up muscle through the weight classes. But you're making it out to believe that Roy drank some magical juice that gave him super fast reflexes, extremely fast hands and colossal power. It just doesn't work that way. The man won a Val Barker trophy at the Olympics.

If he wanted to juice, I'm pretty sure he'd find a way to juice and hide it. Roy was the A side, he would be extremely popular today, more than Floyd. GGG and Kovalev already fight in the U.S.A. EZ wins for a prime Roy. Froch would have to bend the knee and travel to the red white and blue as well just like he did for fellow Olympian Ward.