Prime Jones Jr would be dismantled now by the MEN at 160, 168 & 175

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  1. Tekniqs

    Tekniqs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ripped fuel? Or are you guys talking about something else?
     
  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Steroids, peds, juicing.. whatever you want to call it, it does give advantages, I never said it didn't. If it didn't, athletes wouldn't take it.
    It's why I'm convinced that a significant amount of top athletes take something that would be considered illegal to up their game.

    Here are the facts..

    In 2000, Roy tested positive for Andro which is a weak steroid sold at GNC which could be found in super markets and malls. It wasn't illegal at the time. He was 5-6 times over the limit. His opponent Hall also tested positive for this substance and was 10 times over the limit. Roy beat Hall by TKO then went undefeated 4 years after that event, winning 8 title fights and even winning a HW strap until he got KO'd by Tarver from moving down to LHW. If you think peds back then made Jones into an athletic freak, then I tremble at the thought of Roy under Memo/Angel's influence.

    Now that we got that out of the way, I stand by my picks..

    Roy KO's/TKO's Froch/GGG/Kovalev. With Froch being the easiest out of the bunch.
     
  3. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    I very much doubt Jones just thought of juicing once for that MONSTER Richard Hall.

    Without the PEDs, Jones wouldn't have the freakish athleticism to get out of the way of Golovkin thunderous blows on his glass mandible, he wouldn't have the stamina to cope with Froch's late surges, and he wouldn't be able to match strength with the Krusher.

    He's ends up Tarvered, and Johnsoned and, Greened and Lebedeved much earlier in his career in the current era of stricter PED testing or if he fought under the British Boxing Board of Control which random checks it's athletes even between fights.
     
  4. superconan

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    And Hall who tested higher then Jones did.
     
  5. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    He was another disgrace to the Sport, just like Jones Jr.
     
  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    What are you talking about.. I'm taking the time in your troll thread to give you a serious response, I expect the same, otherwise don't quote my comments.

    Without the peds... well, no boxer would look the same. Hopkins wouldn't be the oldest man to win a world title, Pacquiao wouldn't climb through numerous divisions and win 9 titles in 8 different divisions.. Marquez wouldn't have shook the world and deliver the KO of the decade and Floyd wouldn't be undefeated. Ped's exist in boxing and all of the top athletes are taking them. To think otherwise would be ignorant.

    How exactly is someone like Froch going to find the skills to touch a prime Roy Jone's Jr peds or not without being knocked out? Is he going to drink the magic potion which teaches him how to become a better boxer, lmfao? Should Haye have taken it to obtain the skills to catch Wlad's glass mandible?

    Aren't you the same guy that made a thread bashing Adonis Stevenson, claiming that his only notable win was beating a shot to **** Chad Dawson.. yet you use Tarvar, Johnson, Green and Lebedev as a high-light for Roy's career? :patsch:patsch:rofl:nut:hat
     
  7. Super Hans

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    Don't give me the 'everyone is on PEDs' nonsense. That is made up by people who's heroes have been caught juicing, such as Jones has.

    Ever wonder why 99% of the guys caught fighting dirty are African Americans. Ever wonder why, despite being subjected to PED testing even between fights, very few British fighters fail tests. Cultural differences son, not everyone does it at all- and to think that would be naive.

    Yes, PED using Jones would probably beat Froch, but we aren't talking about the PED using version.

    Please tell me, though, how exactly Jones would knock Froch out - one of the toughest men ever at 168- when he couldn't KO glass chinned Fermin Chirino at 168. Without the PEDs, Jones wouldn't have the power to keep Froch honest, the stamina to keep up with Froch's traditional late surges, nor the athleticism to get out of the way of Froch's big shots.

    Froch stops him in the 6th. :deal
     
  8. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    :patsch So that's your agenda?

    British boxing is not world level boxing. If it was, Hatton, Hamed, Khan, and Lewis would not fight in America using American trainers. I said TOP level boxers. The Pacquiao's, Mayweathers, Hopkins, Mosley's, DLH's, Marquez's, Holyfields, Tyson's.. The most successful British boxer of his generation Lennox Lewis escalated to the top level due to American boxing. This is fact.


    You want me to tell you how Froch would lose to the best boxer of the 90's? Their skills are miles apart. Froch simply doesn't have the skills to catch Roy. Froch has been knocked down by lesser opponents while Roy was unbeatable at MW and SMW.
     
  9. killerD

    killerD Boxing Addict Full Member

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    fact check lennox was canadian he represented canada during the olympics where he won the gold medal.lennox also got knocked out twice by two americans.super hans is a fool who's anti america don't take him seriously.the fact that he thinks the slow plodding froch would beat prime roy jones jr is proof he is bat sh!t crazy.
     
  10. BodyBlaster

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    Carl F.ucking Froch beats Roy Jones jr in his pomp?????
    Are you a troll or posting from inside your secure mental facility?

    It would be 12 all. 12 rounds to Jones and Froch landing about 12 punches the whole fight.
    He'd have beaten Golovkin and Kovalev too, handily.

    Because you beat Nathan Cleverly and Hopkins at 50, does not make you beat Jones jr.

    You need to actually watch Jones jr of the 90's rather than the shell left today, of and take your meds, your dribbling a lot of sh.it.
     
  11. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Super Hans is very good at making the argument that Joe Calzaghe never beat anyone worth a ****. I tend to agree with him.
     
  12. STB

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    Froch wears him down in 6??

    Froch couldnt get within a country mile of Andre Dirrell, I can only imagine how amateurish he'd look against prime Jones
     
  13. conraddobler

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    With Roy, the best thing to do is just to roll the tape. Just look at what he could do. We won't see anything like that for a long time.
     
  14. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr is the best boxer of all time in his prime head to head
     
  15. Imperial1

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    :lol: