Prime Lennox Lewis vs.Prime George Foreman

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  1. DINAMITA

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    Lewis UD. Greater boxer all-round.
     
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  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree Lewis couldn't take those shots, But I also think there's absolutely no chance in hell that Lewis does the rope a dope, so it's a meaningless comment.

    Personally I think Lewis simply has too may tools for Foreman to handle and I've never been overly impressed with Foreman's defense. Simply put Foreman relies on agression and power, but against Lewis I don't think either will work. Lewis' punches are much straighter than George's and he's much faster. This translates into George feeling Lewis' power more often then the other way around. And if Lewis caught George with a few over hand rights, it's timber. And if you've ever seen the Lyle fight, George can be had, and Lewis punches way harder than Lyle does and delivers his punches much quicker.

    Add this to the fact Lewis has a much faster and longer jab, and that Big George is actually the small of the two and it all points to a Lewis win.

    George basically has a punchers chance of winning, but so did many others such as Tua, Tyson, Ruddock, and a host of others.

    Nobody has just bulldosed over Lewis and Lewis has been fighting fighters the size of George his whole career and if Foreman doesn't get to Lewis in the first 1/2 of the fight I think he has even less of a chance to win.
     
  3. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No dickhead gets to mention the Lyle or Young fight in this thread again. The thread is asking about a PRIME Foreman, and that is not prime Foreman. Lewis had a great 1-2, and once you got inside on him, if he couldn't hold you, he was in deep, deep ****. No way in hell he holds Foreman.

    Yes Lewis' chances are much better in the second half of the fight. Problem is, he'll never see round 7.
     
  4. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So, you're calling George Foreman a dickhead because he thought the old version of himself would beat the young version.

    Your argument is flawed, because you're picking a prime Foreman, as a guy that battered much smaller fighters like Frazer.

    On your basis, as Jazzo **** takingly pointed out, Prime Lewis is post McCall, pre Rahman - so you've got to ignore those KO's.

    Therefore the argument for Lewis becomes much stronger, as in his prime was never on the canvas despite fighting huge punchers, and fought many guys as big if not bigger than Foreman.

    Name me a fighter Lewis couldn't hold. You've stated "if Lewis couldn't hold you, he was in deep, deep ****".

    Who was that in Lewis's prime then? And what deep **** was he in, seeing as prime Lewis was never off his feet? And both times he was KO'd were from big right hands, and essentially one shot KO's - who got inside and worked him over??


    Your argument is simplistic. You've admitted Lewis had a great 1-2. It's just as easy to say that's all he'd need against a slower, wider punching Foreman.
    1-2 down the middle, and move. Rinse and repeat. Foreman is far too slow to ever catch Lewis.


    It's a tough fight for either guy. But you're focussing way too much on Foremans strengths and Lewis's weaknesses, and not allowing any room to view it the other way round. It's as though you think weaknesses like the ability to be hit, or lack of ring intelligence simply didn't exist when a fighter was in his prime, rather than simply hadn't been seen yet.
     
  5. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also find it amazing how a majority of people are talking about Foremans power and ignoring Lewis's. Lewis hits harder than anyone Foreman fought in his prime. Foreman would also be the hardest puncher Lennox fought in his prime but by no means the best boxer Lewis fought.

    Bernie also George wasn't an inside fighter..... he was more like the style of a prime Vitali in that he would stand within range and swing in shots rather than an inside fighter like a Tua or Tyson. If George gave Lewis a foot of space which he would because that's Georges style (stand off and trade) i can see Lewis keeping foreman at the end of the jab all night long in much the same way as he did Tyson. Just my opinion though. But seriously Bernie don't start calling people dickheads for dareing to favour Lewis in this fantasy fight. Even George himself has said Lewis is the best Heavyweight since Ali

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/specials/lewis_v_tyson_fight/2024102.stm
     
  6. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lewis could hold Foreman. he was a ripped at 240 pounds and strong for that weight. Mike Tyson said he was shocked when he felt Lewis's power.

    Foreman would need Lewis to make a mistake to win, plain and simple. Of course, over a whole career, even a great fighter like Lewis made mistakes, like underpreparing for Rahman. But Lewis would beat Foreman if both show their A - game. Foreman had great thudding power in his arm punches, but his style was not designed to get by the jab and reach of a bigger, more moble fighter.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

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  8. Napoleon

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  9. MrMagic

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    Lewis gets knocked out by Foreman if he's not careful, he'd be very careful though.

    Lewis by UD.
     
  10. Napoleon

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    I don't see losing being careful enough to avoid a PRIME George Foreman for 12 rounds, while winning the decision. A 45 year old George Foreman maybe, but not the Foreman that fought Ali.
     
  11. Jazzo

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    PRIME Foreman, eh?

    Is he different from Prime Foreman?

    Also, is this a PRIME Lewis? Or just Prime Lewis?

    To be honest, I think you would have to use a
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    Foreman to have the best chance against a Prime Lewis.
     
  12. suckeggs

    suckeggs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can see what you're saying but a prime Foreman never fought a 6ft 6" man with an 84" reach, piston like jab and considerable power of his own.
     
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  13. 196osh

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    The Foreman that fought Ali?

    If big George got hit with half the right hands by Lennox as Ali hit him with then he would have been KO'd.

    Assuming that Foreman has the same porus defence and lack of stamina he has shown throughout his carreer he would get stopped, and it would be brutal.
     
  14. sir axeman

    sir axeman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lewis. Lewis wouldnt go in foolishly against such a banger as Foreman...he'd fight cautious n clever. Too skilled and intelligent. Foreman was a crude fighter...and not the smartest i ever saw.
     
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  15. RUSKULL

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    Lewis would win. Big George even said as much himself.