Prime Lennox vs Prime Holmes

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  1. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    lennox close decision
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Could go either way.....

    Holmes by SD
     
  3. brownshell

    brownshell Active Member Full Member

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    I've contemplated this fight before many times. I've seen the best of both of these fighters and Holmes would be at a disadvantage weight wise, but the hieght advantage for Lewis would be no factor at all. The Holmes jab would be a problem for Lewis all night long and that's how long Holmes threw his jab. Holmes arm lentgh is just about the same as Lewis so he would not have to get much closer to Lewis than Lewis would have to get to him. Lewis might knock Holmes down, but Holmes would get up. I can't say the sme for Lewis and Lewis would be knocked down as well. Holmes faster hands, better jab, better chin and better stamnia would prevail. Holmes by either late stoppage or UD!
     
  4. LoveMuffin

    LoveMuffin Active Member Full Member

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    Holmes jabs and moves his way to a UD.
     
  5. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Could be a Ray Mercer type fight for Lennox. I'm guessing a late stoppage or UD in favour of Holmes. lewis will struggle to fight a guy he can't outjab, or over power...
     
  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Going by that reasoning, there are at least three dozen fighters since the 1970's who could have upset him.

    But originally, you posted:


    When you say " would have beaten him" the implication there is that on both mens' best night and both trained and focused, X would be favoured over Lewis.

    The only two fighters from the 70's in that category, IMO are Ali and Foreman.

    (The only other fighter from any era would be Louis)

    So I don't think its unreasonable to rank Lewis as #4 alltime.



    And I only go back to the mid 30's as the game was just too different in earlier eras.
     
  7. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You got me there. I am not knocking Lewis and I do agree he is an ATG. I should have been much more clearer. I did not write the post as being focused and trained to the max. I actually went by how he normally trains. Remember, your going to get a well trained and focused Lewis after a loss. This is why I mentioned the other fighters. Exemptions were the Morrison and Tyson fights. Steward knew he had to bring his A+ game.
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fair enough.:good
     
  9. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    they've both had their ups and downs, but since this is PRIME for PRIME, i gotta say lennox. holmes very aggressive, good speed, and footwork he copied from Ali, but not as good, his only credits really are beating an old Ali and a crude, raw fighter in cooney. cooney was like the tua of the 80's, the white hype. very good fighter in his own right, but not great. holmes couldn't beat michael spinks, much less holyfield or lennox lewis. it would be close, but lennox a much better inside fighter than holmes with that uppercut that today the klits use. it would be close, but lewis by SD 12. holmes would win first part, lewis rest and the championship rounds. lewis's opposition much better than holmes
     
  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I hate to say it, but you're talking out of your ass here, and you don't seem to know much about Holmes at all.
     
  11. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im going for Lewis, but with Larrys jab who knows, he could win fights with that alone, brilliant weapon and he used it better than anyone else.
     
  12. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think Holmes was exceptional, and could (not necessarily would) outjab Lewis. If Lennox could get on the inside I see his uppercut making the difference.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Holmes UD.

    Holmes and Ali closely followed by Tyson are the main guys I see troubling Lewis prime for prime.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    We have discussed this before......

    Where do you rank Lennox in the all-time list?

    I would place him #1/2 on the H2H list (with Ali) and probably about #5/6 on resume, setting on #2 overall.......

    I don't see Tyson beating Lewis at all (in a hundred goes), though Holmes with the jab and Ali with the all-round skillset would clearly pose problems.....
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    i've been following holmes since he was sparring partners with Ali. ain't taken anything away from the man, i don't blame him for being an ******* for not getting recognized by the masses like cooney did, but what other names has he beaten besides them 2? i ain't hatin on the man, but i just don't think he beats a prime lennox. and he wasn't past it when he lost to spinks. so you think holmes beats holyfield in his prime too? c'mon pea enlighten me