Prime Leonard vs todays Mayweather

Mayweather has a quality jab. He should have used it more IMO. He can obviously get by with the flashier stuff instead, but it's always a useful tie-breaker when you get to the top level.

 

Again not answering the question, how did 10 men including journeymen make it to the final bell against the brutal Leonard?

Did I say Leonard couldn't wouldn't stop Baldo/Mosley, NO, I said he wouldn't necessarily, but you're convinced they wouldn't make it out of the 3rd round - your words - that is if you have a basic grasp of maths

You know you're full of **** and constantly owned and just looking to spin your way out of your constant **** talking, if you don't know how journeymen make it to the final bell, why don't you just admit you know **** all about boxing?

Again not expecting answers to any questions, you're too ******ed for that, tell us how BHOPs got kd'ed twice in the same round against Mercado again

 

So you are claiming that Floyd Mayweather Sr. actually out-boxed a near-prime Sugar Ray Leonard?

Just keep taking the pills.

No, believe me, I have the fight on tape and have watched it more than once actually. I've brought it up many times before as evidence of how Leonard could just impose his physical attributes against smaller/weaker opponents whom he didn't respect, e.g. Floyd Jr.

Yes PowerPuncher, Kirland Laing was better than a prime Duran. :good

 

Leonard won practically every round of that fight and did spend half his time not fighting seriously.

 

I guess those 10 journeymen were just tougher/better fighters than Hearns, Benitez, Duran, Kalule, etc. That is what you were implying, right, PowerPuncher?

 

Bear in mind that you are talking about a guy who has now made these three claims within a week...

- Ricky Hatton at welterweight is physically stronger and has better punch resistance than Julio Cesar Chavez did at superfeatherweight, p4p

- Bernard Hopkins in 1993 with no known names on his record, no world title experience whatsoever, and only two championship distance fights under his belt, was a better scalp than Marco Antonio Barrera was in 2003 (when he was p4p#3, a 2-weight world champ, & held wins over Hamed & Morales) or Juan Manuel Marquez was in 2008 (when he was p4p ranked, a 2-weight world champ, & held a draw with Pacquiao and wins over Barrera, Juarez, Gainer & Peden)

and now

- Prime Ray Leonard is incapable of getting a KO or TKO win at his best weight vs Carlos Baldomir


Even for PowerPuncher, he is on

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As a known nutthugger I disagree with the stopping Mosley bit, he really wanted a Mosley KO under his belt. Mosley wasn't far off going but either Floyd doesn't commit enough to force stoppages or he doesn't have the power. Not sure if thats him trying to be economical/defensive or he just can't put the combinations together anymore. I remember when he faced Corrales, after the firs 3 FMS said 'you'll have him out by the 7th if you keep doing what your doing'. So he had him down in the 7th, went for the kill and couldn't pull it out. Make of that what you will

I'd say its either strategy or age that is making FMJ jab more, a jab is no bad thing ofcourse and its advisable to to change up your style with age. But we all get old

 

Go and rewatch those brutal stoppages of Benitez/Duran and get back to me :hey

 

What is the point you're trying to make when asking the question you've been asking? That's all I'd like to know.

 

1. At times FMS clearly did outbox Leonard

2. Specsavers

3. 1-0 Kirkland Laing over a slightly past prime Duran :yep

 

Whats your ******ed point on asking about the brutal stoppages of Duran/Benitez - tell me how brutal those stoppages were again??????

I'm saying Leonard wouldn't necessarily stop ironed chinned Mosley/Baldomir - unstoppable men against their contemparies. I'm not saying he wouldn't stop them - never said he wouldn't/couldn't. I'm saying 10 men went the distance with him - including gatekeepers/journeymen that probably didn't have the chin of Baldomir. And no I'm not basing Baldomir's chin on the Floyd fight, but the Forrest/Judah/Gatti/Clottey fights

 

****wit you clearly have reading comprehension problems. I never said Leonard could NOT stop Baldomir, I said he wouldn't necessarily and I wouldn't necessarily expect it, especially in 3 rounds like you claimed. Learn how to read you ****ing ******

 

When did I mention brutality? Are you making my arguments for me to make it easier on yourself?

So, in essence, you have no point? You've just admitted Leonard capable of stopping either of them, but when one of the other posters suggests as much you simply turn to the simpleton "He didn't stop everyone he ever fought" argument.

You're pretty damn stupid.

 

Haha, nah sorry PP, but i thought Mosley was feeling the weight of Floyd's shots and was surprised by his strength a lot.

Anyway, it's world cup time so i'll let you all get back to your debate.

 

1. You imply he stopped them, in essence they aren't KO's, why even quote them? because you're full of ****, YES

2. If you are going to be ignorant enough not to follow the thread, then STFU! My initial objection was to that ****wit Popkins claim that Leonard stops Mosley/Baldomir under 3 rounds, no its not a given Leonard stops them at all, especially given 10 men went the distance with Leonard at 147 including journeymen and gatekeepers. Now obviously you're just as dumb as he is

3. Does Leonard stop Baldomir and Mosley under 3 rounds like Popkins claims? If not why are you arguing ******? STFU and put a proper none homo avatar up

4. Did you even know boxers who know they are losing close up shop and stop trying to win, which makes them very hard to KO. I doubt you do