Prime Lewis TKO Vitali in how many rounds??

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  1. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ya but Vitali sure as hell did..as a matter of fact he never managed to do it..and oh ya, almost forgot, he lost the actual fight they were in. Now tell the truth, don't you feel stupid???
     
  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think he would have, but we'll never know. At their best, I'd pick Vitali, but it's not like Lennox wasn't good enough to win. That's what would make any fight between them special.

    Instead of picking one side or the other, my view is less polarized. Each fighter had valid reasons for not doing their best in Vitali-Lennox I. Boxing needed and deserved to have a rematch between those two with each having full training camps to prepare for each other so we could have a genuine superfight, with a proper build up, and each guy 100% ready.

    That it never happened was a huge blow to the sport and heavyweight boxing. Vitali-Lennox I was a hell of an appetizer, but the place went out of business before we got the main course. It's a scenario where literally everyone lost, but hey, that's boxing for you.

    That's what pisses me off about the entire thing.
     
  3. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    6.5 years. Almost 2,500 days.

    Probably 1,000,000 posts across the internet.

    No-one here is saying anything new. No-one is convincing anyone of anything. No-one is making a point that hasn't been made before.

    Every post you make in this thread (or ones like it) will be ranked amongst the single most useless things you can do with your life.

    Just don't bother. Is your time really worth so little?
     
  4. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali trained for a stay-busy 10 rounder against Boswell.
    Lewis trained for a 12 round championship fight against Johnson.

    If anyone has a claim for being in poor shape it's Vitali not Lewis...
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think the problem with these kind of threads is that the average poster is between 18-24 and probably hasn't even seen Lewis fight as they were kids when he was fight in his prime and maybe even when the V.K. - Lewis fight took place. So they really don't know what a prime Lewis even looks like, cause they never seen him.

    Hell one poster here even said that the Lewis fans were whining about the Holyfield- Lewis draw in the first fight.

    Well holly ****, if anyone actually seen the fight, they'd know why

    The only one not yelling about that result was Holyfield and he was at least smart enough to keep his mouth shut about it.

    I mean honestly how can anyone have a honest discussion with how Vitali and Lewis would do in their primes when about 1/2 the board hasn't even seen him fight and you're getting those kind of replies.
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I'm a Lewis nut hugger, how's this?

    Ref stopped the fight fine imo, a good thing for Lewis as it introduced Steward into his life. However there is an argument that can be made. Compare Foreman's 2nd knock down of Frasier to Lewis - Mcall side by side. Both get up before 10, both unsteady on their feet, yet Frasier continues and Lewis got stopped.

    Rahman didn't get get lucky, Lewis was unprepared sure but the punch was peach.

    He was robbed by the judges vs Holyfield how can you even deny this? Ludicrous.

    Vs Vitali he was at a career high weight, not fat but clearly not in shape, this can't be disputed.
    He was 3 months off of 38, by heavyweight standards that is pretty old.
    As for the unmotivated part, that was more Johnsons doing, Steward and Lewis are both quoted as saying Klitschko gave them new a new motivation for the fight as they knew it was a far far tougher fight.

    As for your unbeatable comment, well, he was beaten so that's a pretty stupid comment on your part don't you think?
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's hungrier, the old wolf ontop of the hill, or the young fresher wolf looking to become the Alpha? Vitali was suddenly given a title shot, Lewis was training for Johnson ffs.

    Also, Vitali is renound for keeping in great shape, Lewis was known for being lazy and fighting down to the level of his opposition.

    Care to rethink your statement, if not you'll have to do better than what you've provided.:good
     
  8. Fighting Weight

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    I know you're a nuthugger Skull****, but that's idiotic to the extreme.
     
  9. Fighting Weight

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    Wasn't Holmes or Spinks or Berbicks fault that Ali got Parkinsons either...yet time remembers the greatest as the greatest, just as it will remember Lewis as being the guy that beat the living **** out of VITLAY when he was past his prime.

    Apologies if it stings.
     
  10. Fighting Weight

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    Which is ******ed seeing as old Lewis beat prime Vitaly. At their best how the **** could the outcome be different? Lewis took VITLAYS best shots and kept coming, spooked VITLAY into getting the doctor to quit for him.

    In their primes it would have been a far worse beat-down in Lewis's favour, count on it.

    If you feel VITLAY has the pedigree to hang with prime Lewis then feel free to post a list of opponents that match the ones prime Lewis faced to prove your point. I suspect you can't.
     
  11. Casamayor122

    Casamayor122 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Facts is what I have provided. Vitali was obviously not in peak condition for that fight. He trained for a stay-busy 10 rounder not a 12 round championship fight.

    How do you know for a fact that Lewis was lazy and didn't train for that particular fight?
     
  12. LocoRoco

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    i love how these klit lovers think that a prime lewis would not beat both prime klits
     
  13. Rock0052

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    I suspect it wouldn't matter unless we're doing some kind of Dungeons and Dragons role playing game and rolling dice to figure out a winner, which might actually be a nice change of pace. You missed the main point of my post entirely, but it would make sense that you're touchy about anyone saying anything about Vitali beating Lewis since you're Lennox's vagina and all.

    Lennox would've won, or Vitali would've won. Big deal.
     
  14. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Question: Are you much more motivated for this fight than you were for Kirk Johnson?
    Lewis: I am much more motivated for this fight against Klitschko. I am more motivated because of his size and because he has been trying to take me to into court to take my title. I am motivated due to the fact that his promoter likes to see his name in the paper. At one time, we tried to make this fight and his promoter was lying to the Klitschko brothers and overpriced himself trying to get extra money. I feel good and confident about the fight and I am ready to go.

    Question: Emanuel and Lennox, can you give us some opening comments?
    Steward: There is a lot of credit due to Lennox Lewis, because it is very difficult to change up an opponent at the last moment. In this case, changing up means fighting a guy three inches taller as opposed to three inches shorter. If Lewis was fighting a normal guy, this would be a difficult change, but fighting Klitschko is a major change. We have to adjust to punching up, instead of punching down. It is very difficult to get him to adjust and difficult to get proper sparring partners, but Lewis’ natural talent and experience will take him through. This is the biggest fight in the heavyweight division. To me as a trainer, I am more excited about this fight than the Kirk Johnson fight.

    Question: Emanuel, is there something you see in Klitschko that makes you confident?
    Steward: There will be so many things that will be solved with this fight. There are the lawsuits and all the emotions. As soon as the fight with Johnson was over, we would have had to go back into negotiations for the Klitschko fight. It was hard to get excited about the Johnson fight because of all of the problems with Klitschko. Even though Johnson has had a tremendous amount of fights on television, people do not seem to remember him. The interest was not there.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-news/Lennox-Lewis-Interview.php

    Good enough?
     
  15. edge

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    Prime Lewis was knocked out cold by Rahman... So, if you think he would do better vs. Vitaly, I am not so sure.