Prime Manny Pacquiao vs Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

How is taking clips-actual footage-of a losing fighter having some success and trying to suggest ways to repeat those moments of success "wishful thinking"? It's factual analysis. I said from the outset of that thread that I wouldn't argue with anyone who said Floyd beats JMM at any weight so again why are you so goddamn butthurt?

By your logic I shouldn't post any unpopular arguments because no underdog has ever won an upset and no trainer has ever corrected a fighter's mistakes and no adjustments have ever been made in rematches. Brilliant.

Again, if you're going to ***** at me, provide an argument. If they're flawed, actually pinpoint what's factually incorrect. Or go back to sucking Floyd's dick 24/7 and leave my threads alone since they bother you so much.

Except when everybody laughed at my Cotto Mayweather prediction about the fight being competitive due to Cotto's strengths and Floyd's weaknesses, many of the exact same tactics showed up during the fight. What's the point on emphasizing points people already accept universally?

If you can't understand what I write that's not my fault. If you disagree with something come back with an argument or kindly shut up. I never post anything that doesn't take into account a fighter's actual strengths and weaknesses. I have my preferences but who doesn't?

 

Lmao.

 

So Manny has evolved into super saiyan now?

*******s are now not only ******ed, but childishly gay. atsch

 

He did ask a prime Cotto miguels uncle said that they were not ready, he skipped the Margarito bout cus Margarito lost to williams who then went on and lost to quintanna.

Martinez moved all the way up to 160 and wasnt really talked about until he knocked out Williams.

Trout, well I would like to see him face the winner of Canelo vs Trout.

But I do not understand what you mean why those guys were not asked to take the test. anybody who fights Mayweather from here on out has to get that blood work done.

He tried to fight Hatton but they needed more time were not ready, Cotto and his uncle while Cotto was at his best both were not ready.
Margarito lost to Williams who turned around and lost in his first defense.

So Floyd had to work with what was there.....

 

:huh Has your account been hacked, Bazooka?

 

Bogo is very tolerant to *******s bull****, even with the most ridiculous ones.

He is a closet *******. Don't believe me? Try to find Bogo correct a *******. Tards are running rampant in this thread, but you won't find him giving them one of those winding comebacks.

Not that i care if he is a ******* or not but i'm just wonder why he try to act like he is netrual.

 

What the **** are you talking about :huh

 

I've seen you post **** that is the complete opposite of what you're posting today.

 

:rofl The last few pages have been funny. Both sides crying and whining. Get out while you can.

It`s not even about the topic anymore. Everyone is talking **** now. :rofl

 

No you havent, its simply the way you interpret what I write.

 

The problem is that you take short clips of a guy having four seconds of success or a guy getting caught with something once and automatically think they can do this for the whole fight let alone the whole round. You live too much for best case worst case scenarios and that's not how it works. I look at the bigger picture from a much bigger sample size than the short clips you present.

Your PBF-JMM thread was one of the most ridiculous ones that I've seen. Your argument about PBF-Pac is equally as bad. You thinking that JMM can counter Pac but PBF can't counter Pac because of his footwork and the way he counters is insane and that's the type of stuff that I'm talking about.. PBF has shown in multiple fights that he can adjust and is not easy to hit and can counter anyone. Not only that he's bigger has better footwork timing reflexes and skills than JMM. He would counter Pac all day long as well as beat him to the punch.

Pac has far more many questions to answer here than PBF does What you should be talking about is how will Pac deal with PBF on the inside? How does he deal with his jab? How does he overcome PBF's reach? How does he overcome PBF's better reflexes? How will he stop from getting hit with clean right hands? How does he cut off the ring? What does he do when he realizes he's not landing clean on PBF? What's his plan B? I'm sure you'll respond with some short meaningless clip to try and prove your point.




INSERT WORST CASE BEST CASE SCENARIO CLIP HERE:roll:

 

Yep I'm glad I'm not the only person to see this.:good

 

You can't justify you're bitching with anything substantial because I'm using actual footage and commenting accurately on what happened round after round. It wasn't 4 seconds of success, it was multiple shots round after round to find a pattern.

What would be the point in showing clips of the winner teeing off or arguing in favor of the favorite over and over? We already know how they had or are predicted to have success! What would be the point?

If you actually read, which I'm assuming you didn't, you'd see that I tried to string those moments into patterns and identify JMM's greatest obstacle as well as his most consistent shots. Throughout the thread I commented on what Floyd did right, not just JMM. I commented on the jab to the body and head, and how Floyd's feints downstairs set up his shots upstairs. That's all factual analysis.

This is even more ludicrous when you look at my Cotto-Mayweather thread. I didn't pick Cotto to win but I said Mayweather would not have an easy night, would not stop Cotto, and that Cotto would land his jab repeatedly, control the center, land his right, have success turning southpaw, and avoid Floyd walking him down by moving laterally. I even predicted that coming forward on the inside too often would allow Floyd to adjust to his rhythm and lay into him and win. Was that unrealistic?

My argument is that Floyd often backs up in straight lines while Marquez has lateral movement to neutralize the left straight, making Floyd's adjustment more of a question mark since he point blank uses less in-range lateral movement when countering and usually walks Southpaws down which would be somewhat risky in this case. It's simple. The same reason a left straight has found Floyd is the same reason a good jab bothers him. All you keep doing is talking about Floyd's attributes in terms of being smart and fast and big. That's not analysis. Asking how Manny would handle Floyd on the inside presumes that Floyd would somehow force Manny to fight chest to chest.

Have I said anything untrue about Floyd? No.
Have I said anything untrue about Manny? No.
Am I even outright picking Floyd to lose? No.
Floyd's not perfect, get the **** over it.

Therefore you need to stop sheddin tears all over the place everytime I critique Floyd from a technical standpoint or make game-plans for his opponents just for fun. I'm not even saying Floyd would lose but that what he's shown so far indicates something different than what Marquez did and something different than what he did to Ortiz or Judah. If you have something relevant to say besides "bigger faster smarter better timing " like some casual fan then say it or shut the **** up and free the rest of us from your *****-erotic bitching.

 

Based on what I've seen thus far in Floyd's career, Manny would have a lot of trouble landing more than one or two lefts against Floyd. And I still don't see HOW he would get past Floyd's jab in the first place.

 

The jab isn't quite as relevant in opposite-stanced match-ups. The jab to the body is usually always available, but up top the lead hands run into each other. When Floyd closed the distance and threw at mid-range he landed some hard stiff 1-2's against Judah (I noticed you commented on that earlier). But on the outside Floyd's right to the body and check hooks are more available IMO.