Prime Manny Pacquiao vs Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

The jab is relevant against Pacquiao. Can't generalize based on "opposite match-ups."

 

Bogotaco,

You should make a video analysis on why Pac is such a sucker for the right hand.

 

@Bogo,

Also, can you make a 10 page Thesis on Pac's ever growing noogin? Some gifs and faceoff videos throughout his career would be awesome. I know if anyone can do great work in analyzing Pac would be you.

 

What's the prime version of Pac? Because people only sat he is prime when he isnt fighting Juan. Everytime he fights Juan people say he is declining. Which i find funny.

 

See the Corley fight. Floyd was untouchable when he was focusing on jabbing.

manny has had his punch volume limited on multiple occasions. Floyd is the master at dropping opponent's punch outputs.

Someone who relies on volume like manny would suffer severely versus Floyd

 

Agree on all points. I'm still trying to figure out how Manny would land his left. It is very, very difficult for a southpaw to land a left on Floyd. I think Zab did it about twice to the head.

 

Jab isn't as relevant since it doesn't land as much, but it can still be great for setting up other punches or controlling distance.

Floyd-Judah and Floyd-Ortiz showed what happens in cross stance matches when there's a great disparity between jabbing ability. Floyd's jab created openings for all sorts of punches while Zab's jab left him with that 1-1-2 typical of southpaws. Floyd broke up Ortiz rhythm with the jab. There's a part where Floyd lands three jabs in a row on Ortiz face, and Ortiz stands there dumbfounded.

 

Zab managed to land more lefts than just two.

 

I think two is an exaggeration. But he landed very few. And almost none after the first part of round four.

 

I suppose you're right. But I don't think a jab alone is enough to discourage him. It was Bradley's best tool and it fell short of bringing him real success, then again it is literally shorter.

Definitely, we've talked before about how many opportunities Floyd's outstretched left hand gives him. His rangefinder jab leaves you guessing.

If I make a video trying to explain my ideas with more evidence I will break down how Morales and Marquez were able to do it. Marquez turns before Manny can close the distance and gets his lead foot on the outside.

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Tilting his head low and slipping leftwards (leaning towards the rear hand is riskier against the left hand):

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Floyd doesn't do that as often but you can land on a southpaw with your lead foot on the inside if you yourself step into the shot. Ward did this against Dawson, here Marquez is doing it against Pac, and Mayweather does it against Judah. The question is how often that opportunity will come up since Floyd is not an expert aggressor and Manny is quick on his feet.

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(It cuts short but it's obvious the opening is there.)

 

Well you answered your own question then.

So like I was saying, it would be very difficult for Manny to get past Floyd's jab and length.

 

Can't agree. I'm surprised you said this actually. In this fight there is a noticeable height and reach difference. It would also be used to find the distance and control it also it resets Pac. See Pac v shane or tim for reference.

 

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Freddie Roach stops it after the 8th round.

Mayweather lands close to 60% of his punches.

 

Generally the lead hands run into each other when trying to exchange jabs.

In this case, Pac was wary of it with Tim and Shane but it wasn't enough to set much up for either. Floyd would have success using it as a measuring stick to distract Manny and set other punches up like Slickstar said, but to land it authoritatively takes stepping into and turning with the jab and Floyd doesn't often do that, he prefers jabs to the body and lead shots. I don't think it's the threshold like FN'S does, slower fighters have closed the distance without running into it. Floyd uses it more as a tool than a weapon unto itself.

If you don't turn into the jab it creates an opportunity for the southpaw to slip that opening and land their left hand:

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