Prime Manny Pacquiao vs Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

just another thread on a never ending ***** fantasy of floyd's hypothetical win over pacquiao.

 

Pac would have given Floyd hell in their primes! Pac by TKO

 

With OSDT - Domination for Floyd
No OSDT - unsure

 

only a ***** to this day considers floyd's offer an OSDT.

 

I have Floyd winning by decision, tough opening rounds but he would adjust and give Pac fits with his boxing smarts. Shame this fight never happened in 09 or 10. I can't blame just one fighter as I believe they are both to blame in allowing hurdles to get in the way. I also believe they were both happy fighting easier fights to make the money.

 

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Pacman fought in his prime Barrera,Morales and Marquez. Fought Oscar before he was declared washed up. Did beat an old Mosley, and his list of welterweight and around that weight title defenses Margarito,Cotto,Clottey,Hatton, Marquez were at a level and time when Mayweather would have never fought guys this good and peaking. He didn't. Manny proved more. That is why Floyd will always be seen as a cherrypicker. It is almost like an asterick near his name. I do think he would have beaten Manny had he fought him just on his speed and counterpunching, but he never had the guts to fight Manny. He saw something in Manny which made him refuse to fight him. That affects a legacy. Floyd should not be seen as an ATG with his attitude and handpicking.. And the fact he had the Manny fight ready to be signed for 4 years and didn't fight him. That is unheard of. I would have respected him more to fight Manny and lose than to never fight him. Floyd puts himself over the fans. Yet I always respected his skills, I just don't think he has much confidence in his own skills. I still think he would have beaten Pacman, but it doesn't matter now, and even if he fights him at this time Manny is past his prime after that punch by JMM. That changes the significance of a win over him.

 

You're right my bad, he got caught with a right hand coming in. It was a left-right combo instead of right-left like Ortiz but yeah he was a sitting duck after he threw his shots.

 

72% of posters side with a Floyd victory.

 

Mayweather. Pac only had a puncher's chance and at WW he wasn't that big a puncher.

 

The question is how does Pac adjust after his come forward with speed and power doesn't work? PBF has more ways to beat you than Pac does and has showed better adaptability. There's alot more questions for Pac to answer in this fight than PBF. Why do you act as if Pac has the styles adavantage here when he cleary doesn't? You're always saying what PBF can't do instead of saying what he can. Pac isn't going to outbox PBF nor is he going to knock him out. PBF beats any version of Pac period end of discusion better bigger smater more complete and you know this.:deal

 

Prime Pac couldn't even beat a fading Erik Morales. Come on, now.

 

Too slow on his feet, plus Floyd took on the role of of the counter-puncher for most of the fight, plus Juan's better at lateral movement defensively rather than offensively (Manny has better offensive lateral movement).

 

I disagree. Floyd has more questions to answer because his usual tactics for fighting southpaws look less fesible against someone as dangerous as Manny.

I wouldn't say Pac has the stylistic advantage, but he has a better use of lateral angles, and while that's not the whole fight, that's a key factor of Southpaw-Orthodox match-ups. Floyd's right hand isn't just available, he has to set it up. With Ortiz he rolled some of his punches and landed the right over the top, but most of the time he walks southpaws down. Trying to walk Manny down is dangerous. And if he tries to counter Manny, he doesn't move leftwards consistently like Marquez, so he'd have to pull out new tricks. It's cool if you're confident he can do that but I have reservations about assuming Floyd can do whatever he wants in the ring when he has a tendency to pull his head back straight or towards his rear hand (in the trajectory of the left).

We all know what Floyd is good at, but people neglect Pacquiao's strengths and skills and act like he would have been Floyd's easiest opponent ever and he would have been stopped in his prime, etc. The *******s are gone or incapable of making arguments so I just hear Floyd nut-huggers exaggerate and provide lazy arguments with little counter-weight or resistance and it annoys me that Floyd's weaknesses (they exist) can't be talked about without people having a fit. "bigger, smarter, faster" is not an analysis.

 

Mayweather wins a close but comfortable UD at 147, completely batters him at 130.

The way some people go on about Pacquiao vs Cotto you would think he was only prime for one fight. Boxers have stunning performances like that where the gameplan works perfectly (Mosley vs Margo) but it doesn't mean they were prime for only one fight.