Prime Manny Pacquiao vs Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

The jab, folks. Right to the mid-section. Mayweather will close the gap quickly and destroy Pacquiao on the inside. The real issue for Manny is Floyd's reach. He can't win on the outside, he can't win in close quarters. He can't win, period.

 

Floyd UD but it'll be a lot closer than the scorecards might bring.. A lot of tense moments

 

Marquez definitely throws with opponents more frequently than Floyd, don't see how you can disagree with that one. When Manny feinted with that 1-1-2 Marquez diverted his gaze by getting his head to waist level and replacing it with an overhand right. Foyd is more upright and Manny will be aware of his height.

That jab Marquez threw is a mistake as he stepped into it, that's how Manny neutralized Cotto's jab, slipping towards the right. Like I pointed out with the Bradley GIF, if Manny tilts his head rightwards and steps that way, the right hand is more out of reach.

The issue is what Manny does early before Floyd adjusts. His ability to close the distance might take advantage of Floyd's slightly slow start in the first half and make Floyd prioritize defense. Then as the fight progresses, Floyd may adjust, but that adjustment is unpredictable. I don't see him walking Manny down, and when countering a southpaw, he moves towards his right which is risky. He can outpoint Manny by circling and stepping forward to widen his stance and throw his right hand at the right angle, I don't think it's stupid at all to predict Floyd winning, but people keep saying it's obvious that he'd adjust when the methods he's traditionally use don't seem wisest.

I doubt Floyd can cut the ring off faster than Manny can circle away. He patiently leans on the front foot and throws lefts and rights while parrying. Floyd is effective cutting the ring off but no expert, I doubt he'd corner and smother Pac on the inside, he's only done that at mid-range to Judah.

The right to the body is a great shot to use, usually very available. Floyd's jab will do well if he uses it like the first round against DLH, stepping and circling, but if he steps into it he has to be careful Manny doesn't time his left down the pipe.

 

How is Manny getting past the jab?

 

It's analysis it's fact that can be used to prove your argument. You don't like it because it can't be dis proven and it doesn't help your pathetic ridiculous argument. PBF is faster bigger and more complete. There's a reason why PBF was seen as the favorite in the fight because he's seen as the better fighter. He can make adjustments he has never been outboxed he has great defense and an extremely high ring IQ. He doesn't get hit over and over by the same punch like Pac he's not reckless in the ring. Also PBF doesn't struggle against southpaws it's one of the biggest myths in boxing he's only lost a handful of rounds against them.:deal

You dislike PBF so you'll come up with a 1000 what if's no matter how far fetched they're just like in your PBF-JMM thread regarding a rematch and in their first fight. Pac can't deal with technical boxers he struggles with guys who have educated footwork who can counter and aren't there to be hit. PBF on the other hand excels against all types of boxers and hasn't shown the same vunerabilities as Pac has in the ring. You say PBF can't couhter like JMM can which is hilarious considering PBF is a better counter puncher than JMM is.

If Pac found JMM's style a difficult to solve he would be completely out of his depth against PBF. Pac isn't a thinking man's fighter he can't beat and will always lose against fighter's like PBF. Historically I'm right as well put an elite offensive fighter in there with an elite defensive counter-puncher and the elite defensive counter-puncher schools him more often than not.:deal This fight is easy to pick PBF has more advantages in this fight he's too long and would figure and outbox and beat up the more one-dimensional and flawed and smaller Pac and no amount of your what if far fetched scenarios will change it.

 

This isn't Floyd's preferred way to jab from what I can recall especially when he's boxing a lefty.

I can count one time where he dramatically stepped into his jab while fighting Zab.

 

Floyd countered with the left jab very well against Zab. Particularly in the early going, which set everything else up later.

 

interesting. I'll have to watch the fight again.

What I remember is Floyd ended up having the more effective jab between them as the fight went on.

He would shoot a hook over Zab's jab as early as round 1 to counter it.

 

Exactly and Pac doesn't even have a Jab. Zab Judah would be a harder fight for PBF than Pac would be. Pac doesn't jab isn't a natural counter-puncher and doesn't pick his shots. He also is reckless and can't fight on the inside and has short arms.

 

Perhaps we're referring to the same thing. At times he turned it over (hook), other times he fired it straight.

 

People keep acting as if Mayweather HAS to get inside or walk Pacquiao down. He doesn't have to do sh*t. He can just pop that jab from a distance while Manny bounces around figuring out how to get past Floyd's reach.

 

75-25.

My, how times have changed! :good

 

The hype has died down and reality has set in. Prime Pac was a great fighter...

Almost as great as JMM.

 

Yep people let their hate for PBF get in the way of common sense.

 

wether he was roided or not Mayweather still claimed he could beat him so why didnt he fight him without testing? i think this fight couldve been a 55/45 in favor of mayweather had they fought but they both deserve the blame for it not happening