Prime Manny Pacquiao vs Prime Floyd Mayweather Jr

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  1. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac was, is and will always be better than Marquez, just h2h Marquez gives him hell remember Ali-Norton
     
  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Floyd will tko Manny.
     
  3. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Then there are people like you and Prince N and the rest of your boys who let your Man love for Floyd get in the way of common sense :hi: Good Morning:bbb
     
  4. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is a reason why Pac has to fight JMM four times, A shot Morales 3 times and over the hill MAB twice. IT IS BC PACIQUAO IS AROUND THEIR LEVEL. Floyd is on another level. Very apparant. Pac does good against guys who can't box and slow.

    I like Manny but the hype on him got out of hand. Manny was in his physical prime and gets outboxed by morales? Are you kidding me? When he was rising to the top, he loses to unknowns. Seriously... and gets kTFO by a 40 year old.

    The hype gotten ridiculous bc he beat a drained Oscar, already beaten Hatton, semi drained cotto, and Margartio. Four fights, and now we have to listen to tards spew about his greatness on the level of Floyd??? come on man.
     
  5. steviebruno

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    Marquez was great long before he ever met Pac. Norton did nothing to prove his greatness before or after meeting Ali.

    And contrary to popular belief, I don't believe that Juan's style is even ideal for fighting someone like Pac; constantly allows him to lead, doesn't jab much to offset his rhythm, ducks low to counter and misses Pac's bombs by hairs on many occasions, never forces him backwards, etc.

    If anyone else tried to fight Pac the way JMM does, they'd get killed.

    Erik Morales had the prototypical style for dealing with Pac. Juan succeeds against Pac not because of styles; he succeeds because he's just better.
     
  6. JDK

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    Pimp C looking like a ***** in this thread.
    Though I disagree with Bogotazo almost completely, at least his reasoning is real.
    Pac would only trouble Floyd in the 3-4 first rounds and random spots throughout the rest of the fight.
     
  7. shoulderroll

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    I think Floyd may land the cleaner shots through the fight, but Manny's volume would be too much for him to overcome, i also think Manny in his prime had the speed advantage on Floyd in both hands and feet.

    Mayweather has that tendency to back straight to the ropes (Just like he did against De la Hoya and Victor Ortiz), i don't think he could block and roll all the punches Manny would throw at him, too much volume and too much speed.

    I think Manny gets a close MD.
     
  8. shoulderroll

    shoulderroll Active Member Full Member

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    Wow, that looks like slow motion compared to prime Manny's speed.
     
  9. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    It's so amusing people use Ortiz or Judah as an example of how May deals with Pac.

    Pac punches at angles Floyds never fathomed, his speed is something that would bewilder Floyd because he is used to fighting robots or sluggers. His foot work would tangle Floyds feet up and his relentless output would accumiliate so much I doubt he would last past round 5.

    Hatton gave mayweather fits, without Cortez it would have been close, ODLH beat Mayweather as did Castillo, no version, not even the shot today Pac would lose to those guys.:patsch
     
  10. Anglosaxon

    Anglosaxon FASTEST HANDS ON ESB Full Member

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    Exactly, Pac lands 3-4 by the time May reacts, Pac isn't Ortiz:patsch
     
  11. LikeFatherNSon

    LikeFatherNSon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah Floyd looks much slower too.
     
  12. DeadLikeMe

    DeadLikeMe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holy crap. Some people are so delusional they really still believe Manny was this fastest ever, one punch KO power in both hands fighter. :rofl
     
  13. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Last I checked prime Floyd health came first.
     
  14. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Which is exactly why Prime Floyd asked for random testing..... Someone declined...
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    PimpC could you come off anymore butthurt? Seriously, I'm not even favoring Manny to win, just highlighting certain strengths that could have affect Floyd's few but visible weaknesses. What is far-fetched about Judah and Corley and Ortiz landing a few significant punches that Manny also has at his disposal? That is fact. I know the *****s can't tolerate any critique of Floyd, so any weaknesses to the southpaw stance must be stamped out immediately, but be real for a minute, Floyd is not a perfect fighter, and his extremely solid defense only makes it more visible when someone penetrates it and a number of fighters penetrate it the same way.

    I don't hate Mayweather, he's one of the best defensive fighters ever, an ATG, very complete, extremely skilled, and very accomplished. He's intriguing to try and crack as an undefeated fighter so I put forth arguments based on evidence from the ring. If you can't live with the fact that another poster highlights these weaknesses then you have a problem.

    You however can't bear to do anything but advocate for Floyd and can't tolerate no intelligent counter-arguments. Floyd VS Duran, you're there trying to convince people he's more skilled. Floyd VS anyone and you can only mention Floyd's strengths and dismiss any opponent proposed aside from a few very acclaimed greats.

    Fact is not the same thing as analysis. "Bigger faster smarter" is just a statement of fact with no analysis of how it affects the specific dynamics of the fight. Listing attributes is not an argument.

    All you're doing is stating conclusions. "You're wrong about Marquez because Floyd is a better counter-puncher." First off it's not about better or worse, it's about different styles. You add no analysis or consequence, just state your conclusion. When I argue I give an explanation accompanied by patterns and footage or GIFs or images that support my conclusion.

    If you're going to ***** that hard about someone proposing that one ATG can compete with another, put forth something other than this:

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