Prime Marciano V Tysons Challengers?

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  1. mcvey

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    This SHOULD be the KILLER BLOW.I say should be, but by now we know better.:-(
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    no. 9 Flynn vs no. 3 Payne.

    [url]https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1981&dat=19481109&id=RKsiAAAAIBAJ&sjid=068FAAAAIBAJ&pg=3301,3321059&hl=en[/url]

    I can produce more articles. He was rated 3 for a while.
     
  3. lufcrazy

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    Shkor was top ten rated earlier in his career.
     
  4. mcvey

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    How much earlier?
    He fought Marciano in1950.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    I was bringing up that Payne was rated 3, just 2 months prior to Shkor beating him.

    A genuine good win over a leading contender prior to the Walcott and Marciano fights.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    You'd have to ask Hhascup or someone who has all the monthly rankings.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Payne ,from the Flynn fight in1949 until he retired in 1953 ,had 18 fights he won just 6 of them,ie 30%.
    Any suggestion that he was relevant as far as challenging for the title during this period is concerned is patently absurd.
    Marciano boosters clutching at illusionary straws yet again!
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    I remember him posting them and showing us Shkor.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    :lol:

    This is a really cute post. You know we are discussing Payne prior to challenging Shkor, but you don't like that story, and want to shift the goal posts. Someone is grasping at straws and it isn't me.

    The period which saw Payne rated and well regarded was from 1/48-7/49. In this time he was 12-3 (9 KOs).

    2 of those loses were close split decisions to Flynn and Bivins(who were also top rated at this time).

    Multiple articles have him peaking at no. 3 with discussions of him bringing big crowds, and yes, being a possible title challenger.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Payne prior to challenging Shkor is irrelevant to the discussion. Bottom line he was not a leading contender when he fought Shkor he had won just one of his last three fights and that was over lhvy Ted Lowry,who judging by the fight report was obviously not full of ambition that night .

    "Lowry offered very little offense in the bout, as he grabbed, clinched, and landed lightly to Payne's body. Lowry decided to open up in the 7th round, and landed a right cross on Payne. While this blow was landing, Payned landed a left hook to the chin that dropped Lowry hard. Lowry was counted out as he was attempting to beat the ten-count.
    Source: Rochester Democrat and Chronicle "


    You keep bigging up these 2nd raters to boost your hero, it's a pattern that has become all too drearily obvious by now.
     
  11. The Mongoose

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    :lol:

    Yeah, because he was on a 12-3 run(9 KOs) and had been hanging around the top of the ratings and that isn't the story you want.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    Why does Payne's rating and record, upset you so much?

    You have busted out the caps and vulgar insults.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    Fair enough
     
  14. mcvey

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    Payne's record is NOT relevant to this thread.
    I made a thread asking a simple question but all you want to do is obliquely build up Marciano by inflating the worth of his past opponents .You've never made a thread worth responding to since you've been here, and all you do is clutter up others with this juvenile fanboy revisionism.

    Get a life you SORRY CLOWN!
     
  15. The Mongoose

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    Should I write about my life and how great it is?