Prime Marco Antonio Barrera vs. Yuriorkis Gamboa

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  1. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On a realer note, I'd have to see Gamboa against a Kennedy McKinney type opponent before I judge.
     
  2. Moonchild

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    I couldn't say. While Barrera was a great fighter (I must say I prefer Morrales), Gamboa has not reached his prime. As for Barrera against the present Gamboa, Barrera would definitely win -- but by KO, I cannot say. I do not think Gamboa has a glass jaw; instead, I think he has too much anxiety while fighting. Honestly, how he beats Mtgawa will be the real test of Gamboa's true potential, but still not a test of Gamboa's boxing status. Really, Gamboa has the potential to be one of the best boxers out there.
     
  3. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    of course I know his knockdowns obviously, everybody knows Gamboa has been knockdown before, and Barrera was a brawler from 89'-97', not 12 years as you state. Obviously, Gamboa is definitely a much tougher opponent than any of Barrera's opponent prior to Jones.

    Barrera would be less effective as a brawler against Gamboa. On the other hand, Barrera would be more effective as a skillful boxer against Gamboa.
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No he's not. imho Kennedy McKinney is much tougher than Gamboa and for all we know Eddie ****ing Croft is too, Gamboa gets touched regularly by anyone who steps in the ring with him. He may not even turn out to be an A level fighter. I also don't understand your comment about MAB not being able to knock down Gamboa when every taxi driver in Tijuana knocks down Gamboa. How exactly do you figure that?
     
  5. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For someone so certain about Gamboa, you certainly seem very off on your points.

    One of his knockdowns was a slip incorrectly ruled as a knock down. Another one was a forearm (which will put pretty much anybody down). Against Darling Jiminez, he got knocked down because he was coming forward and was clipped cleanly with a nice shot.

    He still recovered and won all those fights with rarely a bad moment.

    Gamboa is highly accredited Cuban amateur. He has blazing hand speed, very good power, fast feet and recently he's shown the ability to adapt and come up with a decent counter punching style. Does he get knocked down? Absolutely. Does he get back up and kick ass? Absolutely. Is he learning on the job still? You bet.

    So while we're pumping fists and hemming and hawing about respect, I suggest we show some for Gamboa as well. We don't need to bury the current to put over the legends.
     
  6. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I gave him respect. I said he's a decent fighter who can give top guys some anxious moments. At this point, that's more respect than he's earned, because as of now some c level fighters have been giving HIM some anxious moments, and I'm not at all sure that once Gamboa steps up with the big boys, they'll find his chin a HELL of a lot easier than the C fighters did, and they WILL hurt him when they knock him down, and they'll finish him when he stands back up.

    That nonstop punching style looks great against no-hopers. Using it effectively against top competition is a whole different animal entirely. I'm also far from one of those classic forum jackoffs who think fighters from the 1920's would walk over today's fighters. The fact is, Gamboa looks very questionable to me, period. You want to compare him to a ****ing young Marco Antonio Barrera, then don't get your panties in a bunch when you get laughed at.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    This will be my ritual every year now. :good
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  9. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gamboa is tougher, he has more speed, more aggressive, but definitely more power than Mckinney and he fights at a heavier weight division than Mckinney in comparison. Gamboa would be somewhat a better opponent than Mckinney.....not trying to take anything away from Mckinney. Do you recall Barrera-Mckinney, he knock him down 5 times, I doubt Barrera can do that with Gamboa.

    Barrera can kd Gamboa, but Barrera has to deal with Gamboa's onslaught for awhile here which would make Barrera turn skillful boxer who trys to win judges' scorecard.

    As far as getting knockdown, Gamboa slip in one of his fights against Ramirez.
     
  10. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mckinney had one hell of a chin, much better than Gamboas, thats why he got up. You were the one i was referring to earlier about not watching to much of barreras career, just the end.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Only an idiot who knows nothing about Boxing would favor Gamboa at this point.
     
  12. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    [Mckinney had one hell of a chin, much better than Gamboas, thats why he got up.]


    Mckinney has a good chin up until he fought Barrera. He was drop by Barrera several times in the late part of the fight. Obviously, Barrera made him look like he had a glass chin that night. He got up not because he has a good chin, because he wasn't hurt badly thereby he was able to fight on.


    [You were the one i was referring to earlier about not watching to much of barreras career, just the end.]


    Topic deals with Barrera at his prime, not his younger years.
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I bet you're one of those people who bosses hate. They try to tell you what you did wrong and how to correct your error over and over while you sit there and try to defend yourself until they get sick of talking to you and fire your ass. How many burger joints have you worked in this year?

    Gamboa hasn't proven himself to be half the fighter McKinney was, and if he keeps getting knocked on his ass he never will.
     
  14. punch13

    punch13 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    [Gamboa hasn't proven himself to be half the fighter McKinney was, and if he keeps getting knocked on his ass he never will.[/quote]

    you can't tell, they were both undefeated in their first 16 fights.

    Gamboa was only knock down twice, the other one should have been ruled as a slip or push.
     
  15. J.R.

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    Those who say Gamboa should have your faces caved in by MAB himself. ****ing ridiculous. :verysad