These guys are on another planet. Read the whole thread if you want a laugh. Marvin Hagler WOULDN’T have been able to have hurt Floyd IF he’d have landed. Ha! SMH. We’re obviously dealing with a couple of boxing gurus here aren’t we.
No. This is the reality stat man: Cotto weighed 155 pounds against an end of the road Martinez, and 153 pounds against Canelo at a C-W. Floyd fought Cotto at 154 pounds and Canelo at 152 pounds. Once again, Floyd didn’t show any power against Canelo. He won the fight with his great advantages in speed and reach. Pretending that Floyd showed power against 2 MW’s is nothing short of embarrassing. Yet you’ll no doubt use this to convince yourself that his power would have troubled Hagler, Leonard and Hearns etc. Hilarious.
It’s not weird. Floyd was just the better fighter. He didn’t lose due to power. You are completely lost. You’ll go to any length to try and protect Floyd from anyone saying anything that you to perceive as being negative.
Like George has said, he had very little respect of his power. Why are you so defensive? The fight was determined by their technical skills. You have resorted to pretending that Floyd hurt 2 MW’s, so it can strengthen your argument. Why don’t you just be honest. Floyd was one of the greatest fighters who’s ever lived. But as he’d started out at the lower weights and he had hand issues as he aged, he only had respectable power at WW and above. That’s not a criticism of him. It’s just circumstances. If Ray Leonard or Marvin Hagler had’ve fought him at JMW-MW, they’d have known for sure that they were fighting a true ATG. They’d have respected his abilities. But they wouldn’t have respected his power. He was quite cautious in many of his fights, he rarely stopped people and he had to have injections in his hands. That’s the truth.
Leonard certainly threw more combos, Floyd wouldn`t have had the power to stop Hearns and would have been destroyed, his shoulder reol wouldn`t have been effective against the southpaw Kalule, Leonard`s jab was probably the reason he beat Benitez along with his power, he had a reach advantage over Wilfredo and would had a longer jab than Floyd, which is why Floyd`s jab would have been less effective against Hagler.
Louden halucanates whenever he watches a fight Leonard couldnt hurt him either. Marvin's reaction time was just too slow. I thought this was common knowledge and for the same reason the Hagler - Leonard fight was close, it would likewise be close with Mayweather being that Floyd is superior to Leonard
and yet, no matter the variety of excuses, he always manages to win Where there's a Floyd Mayweather, there's got to be a way!
now the excuse is styles before the issue was confidence as in: Floyd doesnt have confidence in himself; he can never win big fights Remember? "Floyd doesnt have Leon Spink's confidence"
Again, it doesn’t matter if you think that Floyd was superior to Leonard. That’s not how things work. Once again, Floyd was superior to Barkley. But it doesn’t mean that Floyd could also have beaten Hearns. Look, I just hope that you’re trolling for your own sake. The only things you have said so far, is that Floyd was better than Leonard, and that Floyd could just replicate what Spinks did against Holmes. You STILL HAVEN’T told us exactly how you think that Floyd could have beaten Hagler. Now considering that we’ve debating for almost 20 pages and you still haven’t told us, the only logical thing to assume is that you don’t really believe it. How would Floyd have won? Specifically. He didn’t possess Ray’s attributes or characteristics. He didn’t possess his style. Before you say it, he didn’t possess the style or characteristics as the other guys who’d troubled Marvin. At the higher weights, Floyd was mostly a cautious fighter with bad hands. It’s completely unrealistic to assume that Floyd would have fought Marvin offensively with supreme confidence. It doesn’t add up to what he did in his actual career. And if Marvin had’ve pressed him hard, it’d have put Floyd into a defensive shell. You are either trolling as Red Rooster, or you’re completely deluded.
