Prime Michael Moorer vs Prime Gerry Cooney

Moorer was a better overrall fighter. Moorer could bang himself. Neither one of them had glass chin like people love to claim. In Moorer case he was only knocked out by world class guys and in the case of Foreman and Tua monster punches. Also according to people who know Michael he was so depressed after losing to George he became a alcoholic for years including during this lose to Tua.

Cooney could bang but his boxing skills were limited which is why he lost to Spinks. Historically speaking people will say Spinks was better than Moorer in reality he wasn't. At heavyweight he beat a old Larry Holmes and in my opinion he didn't win either of the fighters. There was no way boxing people were going to allow Holmes to "break" that so called 49-0 record Marciano had. Moorer on the hand for at heavyweight for a longer time and did better at it.

Moorer should win and win by KO. It could be early or late. But of course if Cooney does catch him he would win by KO.

 

Cooney early. Inside four.

 

And Cooney wasn't after losing to Holmes? His drinking problems post-Holmes were well documented.

Regardless, if it's prime vs prime, Cooney wins.

Cooney was one of the best finishers of his era. Moorer was hurt and dropped by a lot of guys, but they didn't follow up.

Cooney only lost to Hall of Famers.

 

Would love to have seen this one. I certainly don't see cooney taking moorer out early though he would try. But of course moorer got in to a few slugfests, smoking bert and Stewart. If he tries this with cooney he could end up outside the ropes! I can actually see moorer boxing cooney keeping a clear head early rounds. Cooney would be throwing some mean stuff at him but moorer keeping it tight. Mid round s Mike s cracking him with the jab and cooney showing distress signs. Moorer catches a tired Jerry in the ninth and puts him out with a cracking left

 

The last time I checked they both lost to Foreman, Moorer lost to Hall of Famer Holyfield and Tua is a better heavyweight and far bigger puncher than Spinks.

Cooney best wins in his career came against washed up Norton and washed up Lyle. Moorer at least beat guys who were still in their primes like Holyfield. Fran Botha, Vaughn Bean ( Neither were great fighter but they were solid and undefeated when Moorer fought him).

Moorer was knocked down various time. So was Joe Louis and I never seen anybody here criticize his chin. Louis was knocked down by people who weren't heavyweights by modern standards and guys who couldn't punch. Wlad goes down a lot. Archie Moore went down a lot. So why is it okay for certain people to be knocked down but not for others.

Either case Moorer is a better fighter and should win by KO but clearly he could get caught and be stopped as well.

 

Jimmy Young tried boxing Cooney and got his face ripped off.

Moorer fought 35 times as a heavyweight and scored 19 KOs. He wasn't a great puncher or a great boxer at the weight. He struggled beating the likes of Frans Botha, Axel Shulz and Vaughn Bean. He got dropped nearly a dozen times at heavyweight.

I don't see Moorer beating Cooney if they fought 10 times. Cooney would stop him quicker every time.

 

Cooney probably rips his head off in the first round.

 

Moorer wasn't a better heavyweight.

How would Moorer do against Ken Norton (coming off his win over Cobb) or Jimmy Young (coming off a win over John L. Gardner) or Ron Lyle or even George Chaplin ... and how would Cooney do against Vaughn Bean, Axel Shulz, Melvin Foster, or Bert Cooper.

Think Cooney's trainer has to beg him to punch Vaughn Bean and then has to sweat out a gift decision?

Christ. Holyfield had Moorer down SIX TIMES in two fights. Tua had him out in 30 seconds.

A prime Cooney was just as vicious a puncher as Tua ... and he was 6'6".

And I wouldn't put down Michael Spinks' punching power. Moorer didn't ever knock out the same level of fighters Spinks did. And Spinks had to hit Cooney a hundred times to drop him, and Cooney was standing at the end (just like he was against Holmes).

Only Foreman put Cooney down for the count.

 

Lol got his face ripped off? I can see right now you are one of those Cooney fans who will try to make him look better than he was. He landed numerous flush punches on a coked out Jimmy Young and couldn't hurt him and only stopped him because of a cut.

How many KO's did spinks have at heavyweights? Yet he still knocked out Cooney. Botha was a decent fighter, Axel was a decent fighter and so was Vaughn Bean. Wlad was knocked knocked down more than 10 times at heavyweight as well so your point is? If Cooney career would of lasted longer he would of been knocked down more often. When Cooney fought guys who weren't past their primes he got knocked out. At least Moorer beat guys who were heavweights, in their primes and half way decent.

 

Um. No. I said he got his faced ripped off because he did. He was a bloody mess. You can count the number of times that happened to Young on a single finger.

And I don't have to try to make Cooney look any better than he was. He was all wrong for Moorer.

I wouldn't take Michael Moorer over Cooney ever.

As a heavyweight, Moorer wasn't very fit in the body. Cooney's hooks would wreck Moorer's body.

To the head, Moorer didn't take a great shot. Cooney's hooks would wreck his head.

Cooney had a huge reach over Moorer. Moorer wasn't going to outjab him.

Moorer didn't throw a lot of shots. Cooney was very busy in his fights.

Moorer didn't have good movement at all. So he wasn't going to be able to circle and jump in and out like Holmes and Spinks did.

Moorer was a jab ... wait 10 seconds ... Jab ... wait 10 seconds ... jab and maybe throw a straight left ... wait 15 seconds ...

That's why Tua wiped him out. Hell, that's why guys who were slow and not active but had no power - like Bean and Shulz - arguably outpointed him.

I don't know why anyone would take him over Cooney. Moorer is tailor made for Cooney.

I said Cooney inside four. But more realistically, Cooney would take him out in seconds rather than minutes. 30 seconds. 40 seconds. 50 seconds. Moorer wouldn't get up from the first knockdown. Cooney would typically throw 10 punches in a fight in the time it took Moorer to land a couple jabs.

 

You are clearly a idiot. Norton was washed up and almost knocked out by Scott LeDoux a few fights before for crying out loud. Ron Lyle was knocked out by Stan Ward a nobody in 2 rounds a few fights before he faced Cooney. Lyle never fought a guy named George Chaplin. He did fight George O'Mara who was a 197 pound fighter and a bum. Just to show you how you are lying to prove your point.

Cooney wasn't 6'6 so again your are lying. Tua was a much better fighter, had a much better chin than Cooney so your point is worthless about who you think hits harder.

Spinks ony fought 5 fights at heavyweight and the only other heavyweight he knocked out besides Cooney was Steffen Tangstad. So Spinks never knocked out any world class or even decent heavyweights. So again you are just a fanboy. Probably white just like Marciano fanboys are trying to build up your white hero to make himself more legit than he was. Cooney was never anything special. He was another white hope who only wins came against guys who were way past their prime.

Now you get blocked for boring me with your stupidity.

 

A very interesting match up.

Moorer had more skills, but Cooney had a size and power edge and is a bit underrated as a boxer.

If Cooney is in shape and off the bottle I think he wins a very fan friendly type of fight.