Prime Mike Tyson vs. Prime Vitali Klitschko

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Forget about VK because the man with you in the avatar would have presented huge problems for Tyson in the late 80's onward. Everyone was saying at the time that it would have been a joke, Foreman is old, etc. Well now it looks like the joke is on us. Foreman would have had a tremendous chance to dispatch Tyson. Too bad the fight never happened.
     
  2. spion

    spion Active Member Full Member

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    The outcome that most comes to mind for me is Tyson via decision. Tyson at his best had a lot of head movement as has been mentioned and had some seriously nice combinations, but he always had trouble with much taller fighters able to box. Mitch Green, Boncrusher Smith, James Quick Tillis all tasted Tysons quick power shots but went the distance. Same with Donovan Ruddock. I think that Vitali could take the shots from Tyson and not get bombed out. Tyson used to punch in combination but with taller fighters had to leap in behind his shots and therefore couldn't put much of a combination together. On occasion Mike would feel the power from Vitali and be thwarted in his attacks. As mentioned, Vitali rules the center of the ring and Mike wouldn't get the chance to catch him with the right hook-uppercut sequence that he used to nail opponents with when they languished on the ropes. As the rounds wear on Tyson's knockout percentage drops (mostly because he had a lot of 1-3 round knockouts against limited fighters early). Klitschko keeps his power no matter how late the fight. At the top of his game Vitali Klitschko is a strong willed fighter able to take huge shots and deliver the same. Underestimated in his quickness IN THOSE YEARS I think he would present a formidable opponent for Tyson and not anything like the pug who gets knocked out inside of eight that most have posted here.
     
  3. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson's jabbing in and working the body HEAVY will pay big dividents to a decisive UD.

    VK is not afraid to get hit and hit he will get. VK does not clinch and his awkward uppercut is not a factor in this scenerio. All that plus the execution of the above will earn Tyson a victory.

    But he has to work for it and be on top of his game, it ain't gonna be a cakewalk.
     
  4. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Klit would breakdown and dispirit Mike Tyson and force him to quit........ Tyson can't accept rejection.....

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  5. jaffay

    jaffay New Orleans Hornets Full Member

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    Kliczko by 9 rd KO
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sanders did floor Vitali though, Lewis had him hanging on for dear life. Sanders and Lewis were both 37 and out of shape, Sanders more so than Holmes
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The hell? Corrie Sanders ROCKED Vitali; never floored him in 2004.....:-(

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  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    He floored him, it wasnt counted but it was a legit KD
     
  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was too quick and flashy; nothing serious...... Klit is a tad bit stiff to begin with, and Sanders does own power along with fast hands.... However, I say Klit looked to be off balance and appeared to slip / stumble a bit when he got rocked by Sanders.... That knockdown was NOT clean.......

    Off topic... But I thought the 12th rd knockdown that Jimmy Young scored on Foreman in 1977 was also sketchy.... Foreman was exhausted and off balance when Young tagged him along the ropes and Foreman fell / slipped to the canvas...... Again, not a clean knockdown..... Peace....

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  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I believe the rule is if you are punched clean before hitting the floor its a KD. Hence an off balance KD is still a KD. Some refs say if a fighters off balance it isn't a KD but I think they are using artistic licence a bit. Hence Technically Judah scored a KD against Mayweather that wasn't counted

    Sanders and Lewis both shook Vitali up, I think Tyson lands more often than both and scores the KO
     
  11. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    Vitali likes to throw in two and three punch combinations. They aren't devastating but they can muffel the forward movement of a foe. The thing here is Tyson's ability to slip and quickly get inside to make a fighter pay.

    On the one hand Vitali is as tough as nails....so I'd be tempted to call it a Tyson points win.

    On the other, I once watched a far less gifted fighter who was actually a slippery and pumped-up super middleweight amp Lurch onto the stool.

    Either way, can't see Klitschko winning.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Exactly, and if you watch the film, then you will see that Sanders doesn't land a punch, let alone a clean one. Even the biggest Vitali fan, SuzieQ admitted it.

    As for Vitali holding on, so what? Show me a heavyweight who has never been stunned. Fact is that he didn't go down. That SICK Lennox Lewis uppercut in the 6th would've flattened 9%% of all heavyweights. They were old, but power is the last thing to go.
     
  13. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I think you're selling Tyson short a bit here. During the 80's, he fought everyone around and never avoided anyone. His success was not the work of good or "smart" management; it was the result of his tremendous skill, power and speed.
     
  14. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    whats hasbeens? Tubbs, Thomas, Berbick, Smith, Tucker, Bruno Accomplished there best work right around the time they fought tyson. Fighters like Tubbs and Thomas up to 1987 had never even been down before
     
  15. BITCH ASS

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    Not to mention that they were clearly in better shape than the majority of fighters today.