Prime Mohammed Ali vs Prime Lennox Lewis

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  1. Fightfan200

    Fightfan200 New Member Full Member

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    His name is Cassius Clay,the other name might as well be Ochocinco cause both are full of ****.
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    lets match up andre berto vs sugar rqay leonard next

    gay ass thread....... anyone stopped in their prime in 2 rounds and 4 rounds while losing their titles to guys like oliver mccall and rahman.... will get their ass handed to them by Muhammad Ali. PERIOD.
     
  3. Earl-hickey

    Earl-hickey Boxing Junkie banned

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    who the **** is Sugar Rqay Leonard?

    You know what, **** this thread
     
  4. VivaNazVegas

    VivaNazVegas Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have a feeling he blocked me because I asked a joke question
    "Duz u liek it uen teh chicks b all up in yo grill b?"
    I'm not sure though
     
  5. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    ummm ok.... great insight , no bias there :finger
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    agreed
     
  7. RJD88

    RJD88 The Icon Full Member

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0O5I[/ame]

    Sorry but... u izzz
     
  8. FelixTrinidad

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    Wasn't Prime. You delusional blind mouse of a person.

    You are nothing more then a Mehsivierico living behind rose tinted glasses. Your logic and hindreviv Da Shierev Ka Libre is surreal.

    Lennox only lost twice and he avenged both defeats. He made the count against McCall. He was robbed. He lost to Rahman because of mid night ruckus caused by Don King's stooges. He avenged it by breaking Rahman's face with the most lethal 1-2 in HW History.

    I won't say Lewis beats Ali, but from your delusional thinking that Ali 'walks over Lewis' it shows that you are a charivi more then a boxing fan.


    Lewis is widely regarded as one of the top 5 H2H HW Fighters.

    AL Bernstein in his latest book said 'At his best, Lennox Lewis was unbeatable more so then even Roy Jones Jr or Mike Tyson OR ALI'

    You calling Al Bernstein an idiot?
     
  9. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    how the **** was lewis not in his prime when he lost both times?

    and he lost to rahman because of "don king" ok, i quit reading there, thats just ****ing sad
     
  10. FelixTrinidad

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    I don't like threads like this that pit Lewis against an American Icon. I prefer Lennox vs Kbros. But since this thread is already made. I had to dig out my timeline(approved of by 4-5 Boxing trainers btw and a writer from Ring Magazine)

    Here it is


    Lennox Lewis Debut 1989.

    Very fast rise to elite level. 90-91
    Gary Mason to Razer Ruddock - Everyone thought he was heading towards an early prime.

    For one reason or another, he started regressing after Ruddock. I blame it on the fact he had so much hope placed in the unification fight with Bowe. When that was cheated from him, he lost focus.

    Ruddock to MC-CALL 1.
    Steady Regression,
    he still beat Bruno based on pure skills and courage, but the regression compare to his Ruddock Days was clear to see.


    Pick Up Steward
    95-97.
    Regaining confidence, regaining skills, heading towards his true prime.
    Physical peak during this time.

    97-Golota to end of 2000. David Tua:
    Continuation of Physical Prime, he now enters his boxing prime.

    His physical peak was around 95-98. He was no longer in his physical prime after 98, but his boxing prime continued up until the end of 2000.

    2001
    Rahman 1- Way Past Physical Prime. Slightly past boxing prime. Zero-Motivation. Under Trained.

    Rahman 2- Way Past Physical Prime. Past Boxing prime. But HIGHLY MOTIVATED. Very well trained.

    Tyson- Way Past Physical Prime. Pretty past boxing prime.
    Highly motivated,very well trained. Combine that with a shot Tyson and Lewis looked great.


    Vitali- Way Past Physical Prime, semi retired, way past boxing prime.
    Won on pure courage, skills, determination, and a bit of luck.
     
  11. FelixTrinidad

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    If you don't know your Lennox. You should frankly stfu about that 'Prime' Bull****. And knocked out bull****.

    Lewis did made the count. Weather he could have survived or not is debatable.

    But he made the count 100%. McCall was also a ****ing lunatic, he might have just stood there for the reminder of the round and let Lennox recover. Who the hell knows what Mccall would have done. He was insane.

    That was a clear robbery.

    Who was at the fight? You or HBO?

    HBO

    HBO said 'LENNOX SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO CONTINUE'

    THE REF IS CORRUPT
     
  12. chitownfightfan

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    Styles make fights Ice.

    Ali has neither the power of Rahman, nor the chin of McCall.

    As for Berto vs Leonard.....Cmon, thats apples and oranges.

    Berto looked like he could be a great. But him limitations cost him in his biggest fight. Then, he's caught with dope. He very well may have been a one hit wonder. Leonard, obviously is an ATG. Gotta say Leonard UD or late TKO.

    As for Ali Lewis....Who is that big, with that kindof handspeed, and that kind of power, that Ali ever beat? I'll tell ya who, NO ONE.
    Hell, George was slow as hell, and most gave him 5 of the 7 rds before he gassed and was stopped.
    Lewis has twice the speed, plus, he sits at the end of that jab nearly as well as Wlad or Holmes.

    I just dont see Ali being able to get past that jab consistently enough to score and win. I just can't see the GOAT being beaten by any yesteryear fighter without 1 punch KO power. Just aint happening IMO.:nono
     
  13. FelixTrinidad

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    I respect Ali. I really really do.

    But I see Current Wladimir vs Prime Ali as a 50-50 Fight.

    Prime Lewis vs Prime Ali as a 50-50.

    People have to understand Lennox and Wladimir are two special special HW Superstars. Nobody seen anything like Lennox or Wladimir and I don't think we will for a while.

    Every other super HW is either too slow, too clumsy or not powerful enough (Vitali) with their one punch KO'S.

    Wladimir and Lennox can end a fight within a millisecond. Snap and you are dead. They are just huge huge men with tremendous boxing skills and abilities.
     
  14. simon850

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    :deal
     
  15. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch I never realised he meant Sugar Ray Robinson.