Prime Muhammad Ali vs Prime Evander Holyfield

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Dec 31, 2020.


Who wins

  1. Ali Decision

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  2. Ali Knockout

    7.0%
  3. Holyfield Decision

    7.0%
  4. Holyfield Knockout

    4.2%
  5. Draw

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  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Who'd win this fight?
     
  2. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali by decision, but I could see Holyfield trapping him on the ropes at time and landing some good combinations, also Ali was susceptible to counter punches because he did not bring back his hands after throwing, even though he is fast, keeping your hands down will always have its positives and negatives so I can see Holyfield landing some counter rights and backing up Ali to the ropes and landing combinations and he is good at pinning down movers
     
  3. BCS8

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    Tyson KO1
     
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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    The Muhammad Ali of 1967 defeats Evander The Real Deal Holyfield by a unanimous verdict. Ali back then did not use Rope A Dope but had great footwork, had incredible speed, and had great timing. Ali had unending stamina to dance 15 rounds non stop. I do not see him on the canvas as in his 9 title defenses dating back to 1965-1967, he was never floored. I do see a chess match early by both as they both respect one another. But Ali as usual, Floats Like A Butterfly, and Stings Like A Bee. Ali was never a puncher even before his banishment for 43 months and after his return in 1970. Ali with his stick and move does not allow Evander to catch him on the ropes at any time during this contest. If it was 1970 on, I do think that Holyfield has a real good chance to trap Ali on the ropes, to inflict damage and possibly win, as Ali returned without his gifts of his peak years, he was vulnerable, lacked stamina.
     
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  5. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Ali dances circles around Holyfield. Wins a pretty wide UD.
     
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  6. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holyfield has too many big muskles for that other guy
     
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  7. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Holyfield would headbutt and clinch the whole way, same as he did against Tyson. he would effectively nullify Clay's superb footwork and speedy combinations, all the while opening cuts from those headbutts.
    with his strongest weapons not working for him, and all the fouling, Clay would become visibly flustered, much like his debacle with Chuck Wepner...
    Clay makes the fatal mistake of standing toe to toe and slugging which works for a round or two but eventually gets caught .
    Holyfield shows no mercy as Clay had insulted him in the preflight presser, and he unloads on Clay, who's being held up by the ropes with his hands down.
    Holyfield lands a brutal, uncontested 6 punch combo ending the fight and effectively ending Clay's career
     
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  8. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    With all due respect, I take it that you are not fond of Muhammad Ali, but that is your own feelings whatever the case may be.
     
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  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Damn.
     
  10. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    what is the point of these fantasy matches if everyone pics the same guy? I also laid out a pretty detailed vision of how the fight would go. something noone else provided
     
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  11. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    But prime Muhammad Ali was not 1996 Mike Tyson. But that is your feelings and opinion.
     
  12. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I’m going with Holyfield. He’s one of the few heavyweights to match Ali in Speed, durability, and boxing skill. He also had a good left hook, which was one of Ali’s weakness. It wasn’t super powerful, but it was quick, sharp, and he can throw it all night. Holyfield could also apply aggressive counterpunching which is also something that gave Ali problems. No knockout in this fight though, two really strong chins and not a lot of raw power
     
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  13. Guru88

    Guru88 Active Member Full Member

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    I’d put everything I owned on Ali winning on points
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Ali by decision .. a prime Holyfield was having a hard time w a 42 year old Holmes .. Evander was an incredibly brave warrior with a great chin, highly skilled , very smart and tough as all hell but he'd simply be outboxed .. Ali was faster, bigger, naturally stronger and just a bit better .. Evander never fought anyone naturally bigger, stronger, faster (huge key here) that matched him with chin, heart, intelligence and had better stamina ..
     
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  15. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    His name is Ali.
     
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