prime norris vs prime ODLH @ 154

I agree with everything you said except that Oscar would have taken advantage of Norris achilles heel !

 

I hate to defend Oscar because I was never a fan of his. I was always a fan of Norris, but he was a frontrunner. I feel like Oscar would eventually stop him. ODLH was getting outboxed by Quartey, but he closed the show in style, and the fight actually should have been stopped. Whittaker. I feel Oscar lost that fight. But then again, Oscar never fought a guy like Whittaker before. There is no shame in losing, or getting a close decision to Pernell. PBF, Oscar was past it, but he still gave a good accounting of himself. Mosely, he lost the first fight, but wuz robbed in the second.
A guy like Norris would try to impose his will on Oscar, and probably would be giving him the business at the beginning of the fight, but I feel that Oscar would catch up to him in the later rounds. Norris was great, but he was mistake-prone. I'm sure Oscar would know that, and wait until Terry made a mistake, and take him out.

 

Can you give an example where Oscar didn't have good stamina? Look what he did to Carr, Quartey, Castillejo, Vargas, ect in the later rounds. Oscar was a great closer in him prime.

 

The thing is guys like Oba Carr/Castillejo/Vargas are B grade fighters. Mayorga a C grade. The results aren't there against the A grade fighters and never have been. Close decisions is all I ever saw. And he won some and lost some. Just where are the A+ results at that weight class?

 

How can Mayorga be a c class fighter when he knocked out forrest and beat him by decision in the rematch:?:? Vargas was an a- fighter,and Oscar was robbed against an A fighte in the Mosley rematch.

 

Norris would be up on the cards, but I think he'd be stopped late by Oscar De La Hoya. You don't have to be a huge puncher to stop Norris, and who did Norris fight and beat, even at 154lbs, who has the credentials of Oscar? Curry was finished, Mugabi was finished, Leonard was finished - and yes, even Taylor was finished. Oscar gets this late, after being outboxed for long periods.

 

deal:thumbsup THATS RIGHT PERFECTLY SAID!

 

ODLH was never prime at 154.

 

simple; Just what skillset and tools does Mayorga bring to the table? A victory over 1 name guy in his career hardly turns him into an elite fighter. It's nothing more than the best victory of his career and everyone has them.

Oscar robbed against Mosely in rematch; Oscar was the house fighter and was the beneficiary of more scenarios than he was ripped off. And ripped off is Lewis--Holyfield 1 and Oscar hardly dominated the guy in anywhere close to that degree. Be that as it may, the point is that the A+ results just aren't there. The Mosely bout was a close fight & Oscar didn't exactly go out there and get a Foreman/Frazier kind of result, did he? Great fighters do have great results & I don't mind decisions with the feather fisted guys like Ottke and Whitaker who can't ko opponents.

Regarding the thread, Norris was a guy that got A+ results against A fighters in that division.

 

Oscar was ripped off against Tito,and MosleyII the only think close to a gift was against Sturm whom he underestimated and came in out of shape I had sturm by 1 point hardly a robbery. Dont even go there with whittaker it wasnt pretty for OscaR BUT HE WON 115-112 NO CONTRO THERE. He pulled out the quartey fight in the last round. Hell even the first mosley fight i only had oscar losing by 1 point. He schooled tito 116-112 only rounds tito won was cuz oscar didnt do much not cuz tito did anything effective. You wanna talk about oscar not having foreman type kos try Ruelas ko2 and all the other guys he smashed in the lower wts,everyone seems to forget what oscar did in the lower wts,Dont put Ottke inthe same sentence with Oscaratsch

 

You think of that caliber of opposition as terrific opponents? I sure don't. Norris fought a better level of competition at 154. Ruelas? I picked that fight to a T & just how many people were putting $$$ on that guy going into the fight? just who liked his chances to win?

You just don't get it so try this; I give somewhat of a pass on A+ results to the non--ko fighters in big fights. That means guys like Ottke. Benetiz. Mike Quarry. Whitaker. They get their results with ring smarts and not power and simply don't get many A+ results. Just decisions.

If Oscar is such a big hitter, just where are the dominating fights against top level opposition? Let alone w/ something other than the left hook. If a guy is a puncher, an A+ result is a ko over a guy difficult to ko. Like a Mosely. Try getting those results in big fights over guys w/o a history of being stopped.

After he moved up in weight, Oscar just doesn't have the results. Decisions. Close decisions and very close decisions.

 

Both guys had good speed, Norris way better overall boxing ability and a truer junior middle. I dont think ODLH could hurt Norris.
Norris wins by decision.

 

Chavez was past his best but was still a very good fighter who had never been stopped. Oscar did it twice. You dont consider Leija and Chicanito top tier fighters:huh Chicanito was also never stopped when they founght

 

You seem to like Oscar very much, anarci.

 

Chavez and Hernandez were in their primes at 130-135. De La Hoya just started shaving when he faced them. He really was physically much bigger than guys could ever be (meaning making weight is easier when your younger :hey). Norris would have always been a stiff test due to his size.