Prime ODLH knocks out Pacquiao & outpoints Floyd

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  1. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    IMO, Prime Dela Hoya would have knocked out Pacquiao inside 6 rounds & outpointed Floyd in a close fight (close UD or SD in his favour), scoring a knock down or 2 along the way.
     
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  2. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    At what weight?
     
  3. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    140 & 147
     
  4. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I could see that happening.
     
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  5. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think DLH won the fight with Mayweather the first time around. In his prime i see him winning this by a solid UD. Paq would always trouble DLH as he is faster and even busier.

    He wins against Paq by SD.

    But I agree with your post 100%.
     
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  6. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather is too fast for Oscar. Oscar loses to Floyd at 140 and 147. Oscar outpoints Pac at 147. PAC is simply too small.
     
  7. Shrollleftupper

    Shrollleftupper Active Member banned Full Member

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    Oscar barely landed anything in the Floyd fight, please go rewatch it without Lampley’s misleading commentary and without the biased pro-Oscar audience
     
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  8. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    He landed plenty that were not counted, and was the aggressor and made the fight. It was close, but I have always had DLH winning it. DLH if he stayed with the jab would have won without question. He still did enough to take it on points. IMO
     
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  9. ChrisJS

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    I was surprised and disappointed with Mayweather’s performance over a borderline shot De La Hoya. It wasn’t a De La Hoya win but it was closer than it should have been. Leads me to believe he may well have beaten him had it been the 1998-2000 Oscar.

    Pacquaio? I don’t think so. He wasn’t very good vs. southpaws.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. He stops Pacquiao while down on points after a huge counter and an aggressive combo before the ref waves it off, I just can't see Pacquiao being as aggressive as he was at 130-140 and not getting caught.

    And I agree about Mayweather too. If De La Hoya kept up the workrate and kept working the jab like he did in their actual fight, but where he could match Mayweather for speed and wouldn't gas out, I think he wins a clear-ish decision. Probably about 8-4.
     
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  11. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would argue that in a regular sized ring Floyd probably gets the job done even against a prime Oscar. I would probably favour Oscar over Pac, but that is by no means a foregone conclusion. Minus a perfect one shot KO from Marquez Pacquiao showed a fantastic chin at the higher weights for a man of his size.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Mayweather got a good deal bigger while "retired" but I think Floyd was pretty lucky against Oscar. He clearly steamed, "it wasn't the night of the jab" and all that jazz. Calling that one is difficult.

    Calling Pacquiao is harder. How much better was Oscar in his prime than when he heaved himself in against Manny? On the other hand, Jesus, what a kicking, hard to unsee that.
     
  13. Balder

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    Mayweathers own father thought Oscar won. In his prime he wins convincingly.
     
  14. Shrollleftupper

    Shrollleftupper Active Member banned Full Member

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    His father thought Oscar won because he hated his son, lol at you die using that as proof that Oscar didn’t lose 117-111
     
  15. Shrollleftupper

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    What did Oscar land that wasn’t counted, pray tell? And why do you think he stopped throwing the jab? Maybe, just MAYBE, it was due to a combination of gassing and his jab being countered hard by Floyd. “If” is a stupid thing to say. If Floyd had been 165 lbs on fight night like Oscar was instead of 151, he might have knocked down Oscar with some of the right hands that he landed in the later rounds. Get it? All of these weaknesses are what even a prime Oscar suffered: an overly square stance, a lack of a truly threatening right hand, a lack of consistent head or upper-body movement, and the tendency to gas. Thus, considering how utterly poorly he did in their real fight, there’s nothing that shows that a prime Oscar would ever have enough to beat Floyd at 140 or at 147.