Prime Oscar De la hoya vs 2007 Floyd Mayweather 147

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  1. turbotime

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    Prime Mosley would have landed that same shot. It's the reason I had money on Shane by KO. No disrespect to Floyd because he is great but Shane at LW and in his prime at 147 would have put a whole lot of hurt on Floyd for real.


    You think Castillo was mean on the inside? Watch Mosley from '95- 2001
     
  2. Flexb

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    I watched much of Mosley's rise and was the only fighter i was actually worried about facing Oscar, and he is the only fighter to beat a prime Oscar. Mind you Oscar had zero gameplan and thought his power was too much for Mosley, but the second fight was redeeming except for **** judges.
     
  3. ajackman1

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    Big if . You could say that for any fight. If they fought in Mosley prime, there is a big chance he may not have landed that shot . The thing is also Floyd knows what to do when hurt, Mosley weren't even close to knocking him out, anybody can get stunned by a punch, that's part of boxing.
     
  4. ajackman1

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    If they was to fight in mosley prime, there is a huge chance Mosley would not even Land that shot, it's rare to see floyd get hit with right hands.
     
  5. turbotime

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    Castillo landed a bunch of looping shots over Floyd's philly shell guard, that's really the shell's only weakness is the looping right. Burton did it as well.

    How many good big right hand fighters has Floyd even fought? Not many.
     
  6. Flexb

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    Yes, but a much faster, more powerful, prime mosley would have landed that punch and several more. Mosley WAS a good boxer also, he wasn't always that flat footed, one punch at a time fighter. Oscar I think actually had more in him when he retired than Mosley had his last 2-3 fights. Watching Mosley now is close to as sad as Roy, except Mosley still has a great chin, but endures alot more punishment too.
    Best way to desribe it would be Prime Mosley vs. Old Mosley. Prime Mosley TKOs him inside 6 rounds, maybe 4.
     
  7. FelixTrinidad

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    I'm proud of the Poll Results. This shows ESB is still above average in terms of boxing knowledge.
    For anyone to think a Prime Oscar will lose to a 2007 Floyd, :lol::lol:
     
  8. ajackman1

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    Like a said that is a big if, there is no guarantee that in his prime he would even land that shot, it's rare to see floyd get hit with those right hands. Mosley is tailor made for mayweather, Mosley always had problems with technical boxers, mosley has a terrible jab, your never going to beat Floyd with a jab as bad as Mosley's. Rembember when Floyd fought Mosley he wasn't no spring chicken, he been on a steady decline since th balofomir fight, him being 33 and being a pro for so long shows he weren't in his prime either
     
  9. ajackman1

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    The looping right hand is a punch That Ain't thrown that often and catch you off guard, aint really a way to train it, it's a wild Punch you don't see coming
     
  10. Flexb

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    Well logic says if old mosley landed that punch, monster mosley would've 10 times over.
    Mosley's jab wasn't bad at one time. He went up pretty well against Oscars jab. The mosley Floyd fought was awful on all accounts. Absolutely terrible
     
  11. turbotime

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    It's Mosley's best punch.
     
  12. ajackman1

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    It's not logic to say that. The point I'm making is that you can't assume Mosley would have landed that punch if they were to fight in his prime, for example if they were to fight in Mosley prime there is a big chance that Mosley mde not have had the opening and opportunity to land that punch. Mosley jab has always Been bad
     
  13. ajackman1

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    Where was it after round 2 ???
     
  14. Rexrapper 1

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    Oscar buckled from the punch. Let's not forget that both were using 10s. Oscar would lose in his prime. No way is he going to out box Floyd in the center of the ring. He wasn't beating Floyd on my scorecard at that point. I had the fight close but Floyd was winning (barely). He basically swept Hoya in the championship rounds. The same claims you are making for Hoya, I could make for Floyd. Floyd was slower because he was moving up in weight and wore bigger gloves. Floyd didn't have the pop as well for the same reasons. Weight classes are important. How many fights did Floyd have at welter to that point anyway? What 3 fights? Oscar sure was a monster in his prime. That is why he essentially lost to a lightweight and should have lost to a boxer that was on crack. Hoya was one of my favorite fighters in his prime but Floyd is to intelligent.
     
  15. Flexb

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    I'm not sure your rationale here. Mosley was an all around much better fighter and lightning fast. He had a much higher chance to land that punch being much faster, much more explosive and much more mobile. He had lost so much speed the past 3-4 years its not even the same person.